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Not getting payslips and concerned that NI etc not being paid by employer

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  • BennyBoyd
    BennyBoyd Posts: 11 Forumite
    Yes that is my worry.....thanks for being understanding
  • BennyBoyd
    BennyBoyd Posts: 11 Forumite
    Well, I called the NI helpline and the news is............


    ......................


    They were totally and utterly unhelpful.

    He asked me what my enquiry was and I briefly explained it. He then said "unfortunately we wont have that information untill well after the end of the tax year". I asked if he could take my Ni number and just have a look at what info is on my file, and he said no as there wouldn't be any point! He said that my employer will deduct my tax every week, store it up and then pay it at the end of the tax year, and that I need to wait either for my p60 OR until at least August to call back the helpline and ask them to check my file :( I asked if he could at least make a note on my file that I had flagged this up and tried to rectify any problems with my payments but was not offered any help at this time, and he said no...they do not have the facility to add notes to anybody's file. I then asked...can you at least tell me whether or not I would be liable to make up the payments if there has been a shortfall, and he said the employer would be liable....but I got the distinct impression he wasnt really interested and might just have been saying anything to get rid of me.

    Oh dear, oh dear....:mad:
  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    I believe (sorry if this is wrong but it's my understanding) that a payslip is a legal requirement.
  • Sambucus_Nigra
    Sambucus_Nigra Posts: 8,669 Forumite
    Benny - who did you actually call? HMRC?
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
  • marybelle01
    marybelle01 Posts: 2,101 Forumite
    From DirectGov:
    If you suspect your employer of not paying tax or National Insurance contributions on your wages you can report them in confidence using the Tax Evasion Hotline on Tel 0800 788 887. Lines are open Monday to Friday 8.00 am to 6.00 pm and are normally less busy before 9.00 am.
  • KiKi
    KiKi Posts: 5,381 Forumite
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    Call HMRC again and get someone more helpful!

    Otherwise, yes, you should get your P60 very soon, and that will tell you (if you can wait a few weeks).

    I guess the question is: if you're not paying NI and tax, are you really going to jack it all in?

    KiKi
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  • jfh7gwa
    jfh7gwa Posts: 450 Forumite
    KiKi wrote: »
    I guess the question is: if you're not paying NI and tax, are you really going to jack it all in?

    KiKi

    Would anyone really consider continuation with employment in that case, at least in the medium-longer term? Honestly? I know that jobs are rare, but if an employer is willing to not pay their tax/NI bills, what else are they scrimping on (insurances, fire or other safety certificates, and so on).... I'm not sure I'd consider it an option if I was the OP, anyway....
  • Notmyrealname
    Notmyrealname Posts: 4,003 Forumite
    My friend used to work for someone. Never got any wage slips but was assured it was all above board. He's just been landed with an £800 odd bill for NI for four years.
  • terryw
    terryw Posts: 4,396 Forumite
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    My friend used to work for someone. Never got any wage slips but was assured it was all above board. He's just been landed with an £800 odd bill for NI for four years.

    This is quite unusual. Normally if an employer has not paid over tax and NI, the employee is credited with the tax and N I conts.
    "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools"
    Extract from "If" by Rudyard Kipling
  • Notmyrealname
    Notmyrealname Posts: 4,003 Forumite
    terryw wrote: »
    This is quite unusual. Normally if an employer has not paid over tax and NI, the employee is credited with the tax and N I conts.

    From what I can gather, the person he was working for told HMRC it was a self employed position so he's been landed with the bill. The firm has now been wound up and as he was never given a wage slip (I know, I couldn't believe he left it that long either) he has no proof. Wages were sufficient enough to be above NMW.
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