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Spain is getting a bailout

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  • worldtraveller
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    edited 23 July 2012 at 9:06AM
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  • Graham_Devon
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    I tell yer, we need a summit!

    Find it fascinating that a few of us on here cuold see can kicking wouldn't work. Yet people paid hundreds of thousands a year couldn't.

    The only thing that's taken me by surprise is how rapid the falldown has been. I assumed the last 2 announcements for Spain would have bought at least 6 months. Not a couple of weeks.
  • Mrs_Bones
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    I tell yer, we need a summit!

    Find it fascinating that a few of us on here cuold see can kicking wouldn't work. Yet people paid hundreds of thousands a year couldn't.

    The only thing that's taken me by surprise is how rapid the falldown has been. I assumed the last 2 announcements for Spain would have bought at least 6 months. Not a couple of weeks.

    Very true and it would seem now that billions don't buy much more than two weeks of calm at a time. If I remember correctly August was the month everything turned sour on the markets last year, when all the politians were off on their jolly holidays.

    If the rumours are also true about the IMF thinking of pulling out of giving any more financial aid to Greece from September then that's Greece's can kicking days over. Question is, has it just dawned on the IMF that trying to save Greece in the Euro is just not going to work anyway or that keeping them propped up to stop the contagion to other countries like Spain is now simply a waste of time?
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  • JasonLVC
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    There's a rumour that Catalonia will also be asking for similar assistance as Valencia has asked for very soon......
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  • Graham_Devon
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    Spain and Italy have now banned short selling on the markets, to try and stem the losses.
  • sabretoothtigger
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  • Graham_Devon
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    Spains 10 year bonds now 7.62%.

    Italy's 10 year bonds are now at 6.6%

    Wonder if Spain will go over 8%? Peston made a good point. Most of us could borrow for less than 7.6% over ten years!!
  • worldtraveller
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    It appears that Spain may be looking for a Euro Payday Loan, to tide them over, according to The Telegraph that reports:

    "Spain has considered asking Brussels for a bridging loan to see it through to the end of the year, according to reports. Sources close to the government told elEconomista that Spain would need a loan to avoid the "imminent financial collapse" that awaits the country in October when it has to roll-over €28bn of debt.

    The credit line would "buy time" for the country, the sources said, and would provide breathing space while the eurozone's permanent bail-out pot, the European Stability Mechanism (ESM)was set up.
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  • Graham_Devon
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    Love it. A bailout while the bailout is being set up :D
  • sabretoothtigger
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    Spains 10 year bonds now 7.62%.

    Italy's 10 year bonds are now at 6.6%

    Wonder if Spain will go over 8%? Peston made a good point. Most of us could borrow for less than 7.6% over ten years!!

    Good point but can Italians borrow cheaper. Maybe they should and then buy government debt
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