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DCFC79

OP did you follow SarEls advice from your thread in early Jan ? Did you take up the option of asking for advice from SarEl via PM as suggested ?

Akoto

marybelle01 wrote: »

I am unclear what you are trying to ask here. Checking back on your previous posts you have asked this question several times now. You already know the answers, and in January you said you were taking legal action on this. It's now the end of March and you are still asking how to prevent the ex-employer from (you say) telling lies. Why are we still discussing the same issue? If you have proof and you are taking legal action, what other answer can we give you?

im really not here to listen to you tell me whether or not ive asked this question before or not

why do i have to tell you why we are discussing the same issue?

anyway you're obviously interested otherwise you wouldn't be replying.

yes i still have a few questions that are unresolved - i.e. whether or not an organisation can be held responsible for the comments of its senior managers for example.

and whether or not denying the existence of such conversations means they cannot deny vicarious liabilty - because how can they say we cant be held responsible for individual staff going on a frolic - when according to them their staff have said nothing and embarked on no frolic?

Akoto

DCFC79 wrote: »

OP did you follow SarEls advice from your thread in early Jan ? Did you take up the option of asking for advice from SarEl via PM as suggested ?

There were a few issues that needed (and still need) resolving and im gathering more evidence now.

What I am grateful for is the fact that the prospective new employer have been very helpful in providing information. there are still a few things that need dealing with and I have contacted the ICO and reported the ex employer as well.

marybelle01

Akoto wrote: »

im really not hear to listen to you tell me whether or not ive asked this question before or not

why do i have to tell you why we are discussing the same issue?

anyway you're obviously interested otherwise you wouldn't be replying.

yes i still have a few questions that are unresolved - i.e. whether or not an organisation can be held responsible for the comments of its senior managers for example.

and whether or not denying the existence of such conversations means they cannot deny vicarious liabilty - because how can they say we cant be held responsible for individual staff going on a frolic - when according to them their staff have said nothing and embarked on no frolic?

I have utterly no idea what you are ranting on about frolics for. But you really aren't very polite. Yes, I was interested, but I do not take kindly to being led up a garden path when the question in exactly this form has already been asked and answered twice before. Asking whether you can do anything about what you say are lies when you said three months ago that you were already taking legal action to do exactly that doesn't add anything at all to the discussion and doesn't tell you anything new. You asked nothing about vicarious liability or holding the actions of senior managers to account, not about "frolics", whatever those are, in your OP - you simply asked again what you had already asked. Since you can be neither polite nor imformative, and are simply wasting peoples time asking the same question, you will no doubt understand (a) why you aren't getting any more information than you have been previously givem and (b) why I have utterly lost interest.

marybelle01

Akoto wrote: »

you've lost interest?

excellent...
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Ah now we see the nature of the beast. Post reported for abusive language - obviously you aren't here for advice and just want to hear what you want to hear.

MrSnuggles

OP is asking the same question again because he knows he has no leg to stand on if he does take legal action. He'll end up paying the ex-employer for wasting their time in court.

You can't force the ex-employer to give a reference with only information you want. They can freely give out a reference detailing why disciplinary action was taken against you, and they can also refuse to give you a reference.

Nothing you can do after you screwed up in your previous job. I'm sure you're having difficulty finding a new job, but it's part of the deal when you leave on bad terms.

DCFC79

Ill echo what mr snuggles has said, the reference given by an ex employer has to be truthful/factual but its up to the employer whether they only detail period of time working there as well as duties or if they go into more detail why you left or what led you to leaving. It may not be what you want but thats life, just move on, learn from your mistakes.