Have you experience or a view on what action bailiffs should take?

Cavman

After reading Martins message about the new baliff rules I have found a few e-petitions on the p.m's website. I thought I would post this reply and hopefully get a few more people to support them.

There is a few petitions about baliffs so it would be worth searching for them all on the p.m's website.
One link to a petition is as follows
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/baliff/[/url]

Thanks
Cavman

dodgee

Cavman wrote: »

After reading Martins message about the new baliff rules I have found a few e-petitions on the p.m's website. I thought I would post this reply and hopefully get a few more people to support them.

There is a few petitions about baliffs so it would be worth searching for them all on the p.m's website.
One link to a petition is as follows
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/baliff/[/url]

Thanks
Cavman

Thanks for your post and I hope you do not mind but the correct spelling is 'BAILIFF' if you wish to edit your post accordingly .

fallan_2

Its horses for courses I believe.Some people out there owe people a lot of money and dont worry about ever paying it.Others are genuinely having trouble paying the debt. The post about tennants moving away leaving huge amounts of debt is also a big problem Im a landlord and I should know!! There has to be safeguards if these new powers get passed but what they should be I havent a clue!

willywillwill

My thoughts about this are what are the implications of the Human Rights Act 1998 here? Where does the right to privacy and the right to peacefully enjoy ones property fit in with giving rights to third parties to kick your door in? No one, least of all the government, seems to have thought about this!

magicgirl

I don't think threats of violence are ever right and given the reputation of bailiffs, I don't think this law is a good idea. I have signed the petition but even so, until one of the politicians themsleves are on the receiveing end of the mistaken identity, they will not see this as a bad thing. If the judicial system was run correctly in this country, there would be no need for any of this! All that about responsible lending, I have ended up in a lot of debt due to mistakes made by others whether it was the benefits office or my employer. I am not working at the mo but despite knowing this, almost all my creditors are sending me letters asking me to take out a loan with them (all with very high interst rates) despite knowing i have no money! Some of the responsibility has to rest with them and in the cases of personal debts between landlords etc, ther eshould be stricter guidelines about deposits etc to ensure these matters are dealt with properly. it should never be a matter for bailiffs. We have the police to keep check on people braking the law if the thugs who call themselves bailiffs want an exciting job chasing criminals, join the force.

SSB

Hi
As an advisor at CAB, we deal with a lot of cases involving bailiffs. Should they be better regulated, oh yes.... Should they have more powers, oh no.... We need more assistance for individuals in order for them to deal with their debts, losing your possessions to bailiffs hardly helps. You get so little for them at the auction anyway, it is very rarely worth it. Individuals need to be responsible for their debts but this is not the way to go about it.

angeltoad

clairus99 wrote: »

I have my thoughts about this and unless I misunderstand, one or two of the opinions hear are really, honestly very ignorant and stupid. The majority of people do not envisage getting into such hot water.

I've filled in the form but am not clear on where I should be sending it.

Firstly I think that you shouldn't be calling people in the forum ignorant and stupid.
Secondly if you were so clever yourself you would have read the instructions on the form with the fax number or email address to send it back to.
Thirdly, the people who will be most affected by this are the vulnerable. ~the elderly, those with communication problems and those with mental health issues. Perhps most of all, those in debt because their benefits have been messed up or not even come though yet - so the poor will be persecuted further and possibly made homeless.
Mistakes ARE made and there needs to be some protection. I urge people to return the form on behalf of those who can't speak out for themselves.

angeltoad

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/baliff/

dodgee wrote: »

Thanks for your post and I hope you do not mind but the correct spelling is 'BAILIFF' if you wish to edit your post accordingly .

The spelling in the link is correct however so if you spell it "correctly" the link will not work.
Just copy and paste. It is easy to sign, and really needs more signatures as it only has 16 at the moment!
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/baliff/

northshore_2

This is an example of yet another attack on the basic freedoms and rights of privacy and safety given to the UK citizen by it's body of Common Laws.
These laws were variously given to or won by, the citizens of this country.
The Common Law established our rights to every thing we hold dear, such as "An Englishman's home is his castle."
These ancient traditions are what made GB/UK great. It is the reason so many from around the world flock here to be free from the restrictions they leave behind them.
We may find that we have sleepwalked into a future where we have lost those rights and freedoms. All in the name of our "protection" against crime and terrorism.
Instead of tackling the criminal gangsters behind most real crime, instead of rooting out terrorism at it's base, we see our police turned into a re-active force such as the fire-brigade, and we see our few Security Services hamstrung by political correctness.
Society is confused by government into believing that we must all lose our rights to enable their fight against these twin evils, but what we see is British troops thrown into battle against impoverished Afghan farmers growing poppies, instead of the heroin importers and dealers having their doors broken into, and their assets seized, right here at home.
What we see is criminals driving flash 4x4's untouched by the police in the main, many of them blatantly carrying firearms, controlling massive illegal businesses revolving around people-trafficking, pornography, and serious drugs production and trafficking.
Major police activity seems to be only used to pick up the pieces of big terror or accidents, or when it suits government for P.R. on TV news.

Add these new bailiff laws to proposed satellite tracking of motorists, the inputting of private medical data onto a government NHS database, the random collection of DNA, and fingerprints collected at the roadside, (do you believe that these won't be kept permanently?), the compulsory inspection of your home every time you want to sell, the forthcoming Rateable Value inspection, and the huge raft of terror legislation that just seems there to make money for human rights lawyers, not to mention the proposed I.D. database system and what have you got?
You have the end of many basic rights and freedoms of the UK citizenry, and the perfect recipe for total control.
Do we believe the criminals will be afraid of the knock at the door by a bailiff? Or is it likely to be an otherwise decent person who has fallen behind on some store card payment, or forgotten a parking fine that has gone from £30 to £300 with bailiff fees?
Who will benefit from this most? Do you believe you will be safer in your home? Do you think that there will be less guns and knives on the street? The beneficiary will be a future government of whatever shade, that will have the perfect set of tools that even Adolf Hitler would have longed for.
We are sleep walking towards a Society akin to that of the old Soviet bloc, where none dare speak out and where crime is condoned so long as the elites benefit.
How quaint that our future P.M. has been described by an honest former Civil Servant, a Cabinet Secretary, as a control freak alike to Stalin.
Remember him?
Joe Stalin who mercilessly dealt with those that opposed his megalomaniac dream.
WE lose our ancient British rights and traditions at our peril, and to the detriment of our children's future.
Oppose yet another destruction of the protection of our Common Law.
YOUR right to privacy and security in your own home.

dodgee

Cavman wrote: »

After reading Martins message about the new baliff rules I have found a few e-petitions on the p.m's website. I thought I would post this reply and hopefully get a few more people to support them.

There is a few petitions about baliffs so it would be worth searching for them all on the p.m's website.
One link to a petition is as follows
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/baliff/[/url]

Thanks
Cavman

If you use follow this link with the correct spelling of 'Bailiff' http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Bailiff-Violence/ (which works) you will find there are over 1800 petitioners signed up already.
Ends 15 October 2007.
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