non-paid compulsory attendance?

cl1306

is my employer allowed to insist i attend a meeting outside normal hours without paying me for my time? (likely to be around 2 hours)

marybelle01

cl1306 wrote: »

is my employer allowed to insist i attend a meeting outside normal hours without paying me for my time? (likely to be around 2 hours)

Probably not although it depends on your contract and what it says about unpaid overtime in there. On the other hand it might be in your own best interests to think about whether refusing is wise since this seems to be a one off thing. There is a vast difference between something the employer can't make you do, and not being able to make you regret the fact that your didn't.

getmore4less

If you are on minimum wage(or the hours would take you below min wage) then they should pay you.

cl1306

Well its a staff meeting which are supposed to happen on a monthly basis so it could happen quite regularly. I don't think it will bring me down below minimum wage but it is quite likely to put me in a position where I will have less than 11 hours between the end of the meeting and the start of my next shift.

System

If it is a staff meeting where everybody has to attend then by definition somebody is bound to dip out. You've got the short straw this time

getmore4less

Whats so important they everyone has to attend every time.
What happens for holiday and sick.
2hours every month, must be some BS saved up.

Why can't they vary the time to catch working hours or just have a couple of meetings.

Should be paid if they want you to come in

TOIL spread over the month would work.

agrinnall

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If it is a staff meeting where everybody has to attend then by definition somebody is bound to dip out. You've got the short straw this time

I don't necessarily agree (although that depends on what you mean by 'dip out', a term I've never heard before in this context). If everybody works 9 - 5 then holding the meeting within those hours means everybody can attend unless they are on holiday or off sick. Because the OP has mentioned that there may be less than 11 hours between the end of the meeting and starting work there's an impliction that the hours of work aren't 9 - 5 (well, not unless the meeting has been scheduled to finish after 10 p.m.) so it may be shift work, and if there is a point when everybody is not at work at the same time then yes, some of the staff will be attending the meeting when they are not at work. In that case it might be reasonable to expect the timing of the meeting to be varied so that the off duty staff are not always the same people.

System

The timing/day may be varied but the OP didn't say. If you read the OPs post then he mentioned shift.

Since there is shift then it will be the case in most situations that somebody has to come in on time off/ not get their 12 hours between shift. The point I was making is that this time it is the OP who is in that situation. For the next one it may be somebody else.

elsien

The 11 hours isn't set in stone anyway. I do shift work in a care home and on staff meeting days we might finish at 1 and be back in for 4.


"the 11 hours consecutive rest can be varied, as long as compensatory rest is given. For example, a break of 6 hours between shifts can be compensated with a subsequent break of 16 hours between shifts."

marybelle01

The OP also didn't mention how long they have worked there either but given the nature of the question I'd guess not long. Which means that standing on principles may mean they won't be working there much longer either.