Fixed Term Contract

silentotter

I am about to enter into my second fixed term contract with my present employer. This one is t last for 9 months after the initial one for 2 months. Before that I had been working for the same company as a temp via an agency for 10 months.

Is it true that in the UK employers are only legally allowed to give you 2 fixed term contracts then have to make you permanent if they wish to keep you on?

Could anyone help with this query please?

Silentotter

marybelle01

No, it isn't true.

Jarndyce

No it isn't true, but after four years of consecutive fixed term contracts, you have the same rights as a permanent member of staff.

marybelle01

Jarndyce wrote: »

No it isn't true, but after four years of consecutive fixed term contracts, you have the same rights as a permanent member of staff.

And that isn't true either. After one year of continuous employment your have the same rights against unfair dismissal and after two years you have the right to redundancy pay. Employees have the same rights and the law says that you can't be treated differently because you have a fixed term contract. After four years you only get the right to ASK to be made permanent. The employer can refuse if they have a good reason.

Jarndyce

marybelle01 wrote: »

And that isn't true either. After one year of continuous employment your have the same rights against unfair dismissal and after two years you have the right to redundancy pay. Employees have the same rights and the law says that you can't be treated differently because you have a fixed term contract. After four years you only get the right to ASK to be made permanent. The employer can refuse if they have a good reason.

Yes I do know the law. Actually, the right is to ask for a statement that you are now permanent, which the employer can only refuse if they can objectively justify it.

marybelle01

Jarndyce wrote: »

Yes I do know the law. Actually, the right is to ask for a statement that you are now permanent, which the employer can only refuse if they can objectively justify it.

Well if you know the law why wasn't what you said accurate? A "mincing of words" just to be pedantic doesn't change the fact that what you said in the first place was wrong and that what you said in the second place was exactly what I had already said. Bit of a know-it-all who can't bear to be corrected?

Jarndyce

marybelle01 wrote: »

Well if you know the law why wasn't what you said accurate? A "mincing of words" just to be pedantic doesn't change the fact that what you said in the first place was wrong and that what you said in the second place was exactly what I had already said. Bit of a know-it-all who can't bear to be corrected?

I can't be bothered to argue with you. Some people come on here for a layperson's explanation of their rights, not a semantic argument about the law. What you said was wrong also, if you're being pedantic.

marybelle01

Jarndyce wrote: »

I can't be bothered to argue with you. Some people come on here for a layperson's explanation of their rights, not a semantic argument about the law. What you said was wrong also, if you're being pedantic.

For someone who can't be bothered arguing you do a hell of a lot of it. Your posts are arrogant beyond belief and you simply can't admit that you told someone something that was wrong. There is no difference at all between asking for a statement that you are permanant, and asking to be made permanant; and no difference at all between an employer having to give a good reason for refusing and having to objectively justify refusing. And quite a lot of difference between telling someone that they get the same rights as permanant employees after four years (what you said, and wrong); and saying that they have the same rights as permanant employees in the same position (what I said, and correct). You claim to know the law but there's precious little evidence of any legal knowledge in your posts here, just a lot of arrogance and insisting you have to be correct when you aren't. I don't claim to be a legal expert like you do - which is why I only tell people what I know to be correct. And this I do know.