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Renewables: "talking 'bout my generation"

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  • Grandad2b
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    edited 1 June 2023 at 7:17AM
    8kWh, 1.8 O's. Ending the month with 108% PVGIS.
  • Merlin139
    Merlin139 Posts: 7,259 Forumite
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    Ended the month on 520 kWh or 130.8 O's

    112.2 % of PVGIS

    Overall the month rank 6th of 9 but this is the first month where we have beaten 2022. 

    227 kWh behind this time last year.

    Diverted 143 kWh through i-Boost.

    Paid for 54 kWh of Gas and 91 kWh of Electricity.
    3.795 kWp Solar PV System. Capital of the Wolds

  • Magnitio
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    A relatively poor 2.88 O's for the last day of the month. Good last half of May resulted in 105% of PVGIS, which is 4% better than last May.
    6.4kWp (16 * 400Wp REC Alpha) facing ESE + 5kW Huawei inverter + 10kWh Huawei battery. Buckinghamshire.
  • Magnitio
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    Grandad2b said:
    I've long suspected my inverter isn't telling me the truth about daily generation and now I think I have evidence: I've taken the data which produces the generation chart and obtained an estimate of the energy output by assuming that the figure stored every 5 minutes is the power output over the whole of the preceding 5 minute interval. I know this isn't true but it's the best I have come up with so far. 
    For example, the worst day this month was 12th May. Inverter reported an output of 4.9 kWh. My analysis using the method above gives an output of 3986.7 Wh, a difference of 913.7 Wh. In other words on this day the inverter over-reported by almost 23%. It may balance out; on other days it's under-reported and one day earlier this week when there was only 3 or 4 data points since daybreak I noticed the system was already claiming to have generated 1.7 kWh.
    What I think might be happening is that the servers storing the data are based in China and when local time there reaches midnight it saves that day's data meaning that at 5pm a new day begins. I'll be testing this theory over the coming months.
    Some of the data from inverters can be confusing as it needs to take into account the losses converting DC to AC. With batteries it gets even more challenging as there are charge/discharge losses as well. If you start a new thread with details of what you are finding and the equipment you use, maybe someone can held/hinder your investigations.

    6.4kWp (16 * 400Wp REC Alpha) facing ESE + 5kW Huawei inverter + 10kWh Huawei battery. Buckinghamshire.
  • Raxiel
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    Well, a fine May ended with a whimper. 1.64Os yesterday.
    Came close to an entirely negative energy bill this month but these last few days scuppered it. Still a pretty small total, and 478.55kWh generated for the whole month, against 406.79 predicted by PV-GIS puts us at 117%, so can't really complain.




    3.6 kW PV in the Midlands - 9x Sharp 400W black panels - 6x facing SE and 3x facing SW, Solaredge Optimisers and Inverter. 400W Derril Water (one day). Octopus Flux
  • Grandad2b
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    Magnitio said:
    Grandad2b said:
    I've long suspected my inverter isn't telling me the truth about daily generation and now I think I have evidence: I've taken the data which produces the generation chart and obtained an estimate of the energy output by assuming that the figure stored every 5 minutes is the power output over the whole of the preceding 5 minute interval. I know this isn't true but it's the best I have come up with so far. 
    For example, the worst day this month was 12th May. Inverter reported an output of 4.9 kWh. My analysis using the method above gives an output of 3986.7 Wh, a difference of 913.7 Wh. In other words on this day the inverter over-reported by almost 23%. It may balance out; on other days it's under-reported and one day earlier this week when there was only 3 or 4 data points since daybreak I noticed the system was already claiming to have generated 1.7 kWh.
    What I think might be happening is that the servers storing the data are based in China and when local time there reaches midnight it saves that day's data meaning that at 5pm a new day begins. I'll be testing this theory over the coming months.
    Some of the data from inverters can be confusing as it needs to take into account the losses converting DC to AC. With batteries it gets even more challenging as there are charge/discharge losses as well. If you start a new thread with details of what you are finding and the equipment you use, maybe someone can held/hinder your investigations.

    That's a very good point, and thanks for pointing it out. 
    In this case I think I'm justified in taking the power to be output rather than input since the most I have ever seen is 3.6kW which just happens to be the inverter's rated output.
    Incidentally at 6:50 this morning I had apparently already generated 1.6kWh for the month which seems a little surprising since the output at that point was just 160W :smile:

  • KevinG
    KevinG Posts: 2,088 Forumite
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    Pretty good month, third best May behind 2020 and 2016. 20% above PVGIS at 136.15 Os.
    2kWp Solar PV - 10*200W Kioto, SMA Sunny Boy 2000HF, SSE facing, some shading in winter, 37° pitch, installed Jun-2011, inverter replaced Sep-2017 AND Feb-2022.
  • ggmf
    ggmf Posts: 817 Forumite
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    slightly down on the last couple of days, but still an excellent 6.7 & 3.957 O's
    2 Separate arrays, 7 x JASolar 380w panels (2.66kWp) south facing, 4 x JASolar 380w panels (1.52kWp) east facing, 11 x Tigo optimizers & cloud, Growatt SPH5000, Growatt 6.5kWh Hybrid battery (Go-live 01/12/21) - Additional reporting via Solar Assistant.
  • Alnat1
    Alnat1 Posts: 3,871 Forumite
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    edited 1 June 2023 at 10:52PM
    Another completely cloudy day here in South Yorkshire 1.56 O's, tomorrow is promising better.
    Barnsley, South Yorkshire
    Solar PV 5.25kWp SW facing (14 x 375) Lux 3.6kw hybrid inverter installed Mar 22 and 9.6kw Pylontech battery 
    Daikin 8kW ASHP installed Jan 25
    Octopus Cosy/Fixed Outgoing 
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