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Renewables: "talking 'bout my generation"

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  • JKenH
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    I doubt whether he got anywhere near a kilowatt at any point in the day.

    But it's not just the terminology that's at fault here, it's the concept of the 'O' when using the the kWp of an east-west system.

    Good to see you back Kernel Sanders. You were right, it topped out yesterday at 0.55kW.
    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • EricMears
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    Cheer up everyone !

    Only a couple of days to go before we 'turn the corner' and we should all start seeing increased output almost every day.
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • EVandPV
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    EricMears wrote: »
    Cheer up everyone !

    Only a couple of days to go before we 'turn the corner' and we should all start seeing increased output almost every day.
    Indeed. Roll on the spring !
    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
  • JKenH
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    JKenH wrote: »
    Good to see you back Kernel Sanders. You were right, it topped out yesterday at 0.55kW.

    Sorry that was the day before. Yesterday’s max was 290watts.
    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • JKenH
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    But it's not just the terminology that's at fault here, it's the concept of the 'O' when using the the kWp of an east-west system.

    Yes, it makes me feel inadequate but the reality is my system comes in close to PVGIS (v5), the odd month excepted. What surprise me most is the difference between ENE and WSW (the real orientation of my panels) at this time of year. Not too bad when it is uniformly bad like yesterday but on a sunny day it is huge.
    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • Kernel_Sanders
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    edited 19 December 2019 at 5:06PM
    JKenH wrote: »
    Good to see you back Kernel Sanders.
    Why thank you, Ken. It's just a fleeting appearance, with a reminder that if anybody wants to ask/tell me anything, they really need to PM if I've not posted for a couple of days.
    JKenH wrote: »
    Yes, it makes me feel inadequate
    Size isn't everything, Ken!
    Like Eric, I don't 'recognise' the 'O' (I produced 672 Wh today), but wouldn't it make a bit more sense if the denominator was the inverter capacity instead? (providing you don't have an overly big one :))
  • Oscargrouch
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    Over the past 3 days a staggering 0.92 O's total...:beer:...coffee.gif
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
  • JKenH
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    I doubt whether he got anywhere near a kilowatt at any point in the day.

    But it's not just the terminology that's at fault here, it's the concept of the 'O' when using the the kWp of an east-west system.
    Why thank you, Ken. It's just a fleeting appearance, with a reminder that if anybody wants to ask/tell me anything, they really need to PM if I've not posted for a couple of days.

    Size isn't everything, Ken!
    Like Eric, I don't 'recognise' the 'O' (I produced 672 Wh today), but wouldn't it make a bit more sense if the denominator was the inverter capacity instead? (providing you don't have an overly big one :))


    Unfortunately I do have an overly big one on the east roof; 3.6 kw when the most generation I have seen is about 2.5kw. Still scope for more panels on the same inverter. The west roof at 3.6kw for 4.2 kwp panels seems about right.
    Northern Lincolnshire. 7.8 kWp system, (4.2 kw west facing panels , 3.6 kw east facing), Solis inverters, Solar IBoost water heater, Mitsubishi SRK35ZS-S and SRK20ZS-S Wall Mounted Inverter Heat Pumps, ex Nissan Leaf owner)
  • Kernel_Sanders
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    edited 19 December 2019 at 7:09PM
    JKenH wrote: »
    Unfortunately I do have an overly big one on the east roof; 3.6 kw when the most generation I have seen is about 2.5kw. Still scope for more panels on the same inverter. The west roof at 3.6kw for 4.2 kwp panels seems about right.
    I've just noticed 'Solaris inverters'. If you've ever actually generated more than 4 kW, then I'd have thought the achievement too infrequent to justify the expense of two inverters. In fact if you decide not to add further panels, then by the time the first inverter gives up the ghost, won't your arrays have degradated to the point where the other inverter will be able to cope with both? (assuming it has two strings, of course).
  • legoman62
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    0.175 O's or 0.7kWh here today:D
    Passed 3600kWh for this year:beer:
    16 Sanyo Hit 250s.4kWp SMA 3.8kWp inverter. SW roof. 28° pitch. Minimal shade. Nov 2011 install. Hybrid car. Ripple Kirk Hill. N.E Lincs Coast.
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