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Resentment against SVR hikes grows, Economists call for BOE to drop rates to 0%

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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    Is it not the case that companies making increased profits would help get the economy back to normal? Surely this applies to banks.

    Only if the companies disburse those profits into the economy, via investment in expansion, job creation, and dividends to shareholders.

    If they lock the money away and don't use it, then there is no benefit.

    The same thing applies to banks.

    If they are lending/spending dramatically more because they are making increased profits, then fine. But they're not.

    They're just rebuilding their balance sheets and sitting on the cash. So it has no benefit to the economy at all.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Only if the companies disburse those profits into the economy, via investment in expansion, job creation, and dividends to shareholders.

    If they lock the money away and don't use it, then there is no benefit.

    The same thing applies to banks.

    If they are lending/spending dramatically more because they are making increased profits, then fine. But they're not.

    They're just rebuilding their balance sheets and sitting on the cash. So it has no benefit to the economy at all.

    So, the sooner they rebuild their balance sheets to the required level, the sooner they will be in a position to help the economy. Profit is a good thing.
  • Sibley
    Sibley Posts: 1,557 Forumite
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    Nice one.
    The banks shot themselves in the foot.

    We'll have 0% now. Lovely.

    Don't try and mess with homeowners.
    We won't allow rates to rise.
    We love Sarah O Grady
  • Emy1501
    Emy1501 Posts: 1,798 Forumite
    You made the assertion, either you can prove it or not.

    Post the link. :)



    Oh right then....

    So we agree these rate rises won't impact house prices.

    Good to know.



    But the majority of mortgages are. So lowering rates to zero would indeed have an impact on liquidity.


    I'd be surprised if the majority of mortgages would be affected by this and even if they were all you will see is rates and arrangement fees getting higher for new borrowers and those when their trackers end as few do trackers for more than 2 years
  • Sibley
    Sibley Posts: 1,557 Forumite
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    I like how things are panning out.
    We are showing the bears.

    House prices will not drop.
    Rents will rise and we will not allow high interest rates.

    Have it!!!
    We love Sarah O Grady
  • nearlynew
    nearlynew Posts: 3,800 Forumite
    Debt-junkies of the world - unite and take over.
    "The problem with quotes on the internet is that you never know whether they are genuine or not" -
    Albert Einstein
  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    weird things happen to the banks financial models when rates hit 0. its difficult to divide by it fo a start. 0.25% minimum i reckon, and with talk of ppi not dropping at the mo, not muchnof a chance either.
  • shortchanged_2
    shortchanged_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
    Hamish this sounds like the ramblings of a desperate man.

    Many of your ilk on here stated that people would cope just fine with interest rate rises. This doesn't sound like the case now.

    You sound like you're quite spooked by it all Hamish.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Hamish this sounds like the ramblings of a desperate man.

    I had the same thoughts. Is if Hamish was taking this lastest change in rates affected him personally. When nothing previously mattered. As house prices were going to eternally rise.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    I had the same thoughts. Is if Hamish was taking this lastest change in rates affected him personally. When nothing previously mattered. As house prices were going to eternally rise.

    There does seem to be a hint of desperation is some of his recent posts.
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