what do they take in to account

when_will_it_end

asking for a friend

she has 3 children with ex
he moved out 2 yrs ago and paid 200 pounds every 4 weeks
he has a new partner who has 4 children an 1 due next month

he saw children maybe every 2 months for a weekend due to distance

ex wanted children for a week when new gf was due baby she said not really ideal plus where will they sleep as its first time they will have stayed at the house

he saw his bum an said he wanted everything done properly an called the CSA himself to his horror they say he has to pay 93 pounds a week so friend said thats what she wants as he wanted it all done properly

now he is saying its only this much because they have taken in to account the gf tax credits an its not really fair that she should recieve part of her girls money is this true is this how they calculate it?

friend feels guilty if this is the case but i pointed out that some of her ex wage will be going on her girls any way as he pays in to the house an they must be on a fair income if this is the case the CSA also said that when the new baby arrives the payment will not really decrease, she was happy with what she was getting this is all his doing an its back fired on him

she does not have a problem with his new relationship or the new baby but they live in a 3 bed house an when the children go they will not have a shared bed between them, an 8 children at any one time will be hard so she is obviously concerned she did offer for him to come up any time to see them but he is now declining that offer

she does not know what to do any advice welcome

thanks

when_will_it_end

the new baby is his but not the existing 4 the new gf has

HappyMJ

Taking into account the tax credits is cancelled out by his income being reduced by 25% when the calculation is made so it ends up being about the same anyway. Not sure about the rest.... it doesn't quite make sense. If she feels it is unfair they can come to a private arrangement in which he pays somewhere beteewn £200 a month and £93 a week.

when_will_it_end

HappyMJ wrote: »

Taking into account the tax credits is cancelled out by his income being reduced by 25% when the calculation is made so it ends up being about the same anyway. Not sure about the rest.... it doesn't quite make sense. If she feels it is unfair they can come to a private arrangement in which he pays somewhere beteewn £200 a month and £93 a week.

thanks,
i think he panicked when he realised how much he had to pay and him knowing what buttons to press played on her girls missing out, do you know if they take the gf CM she receives in to account?

he did make an offer of 250 pounds, she is not greedy and wouldn't want to see children going without but she still does struggle when it comes to providing for her children they are young and growing at a rate of knots!

PreludeForTimeFeelers

when_will_it_end wrote: »

thanks,
i think he panicked when he realised how much he had to pay and him knowing what buttons to press played on her girls missing out, do you know if they take the gf CM she receives in to account?

he did make an offer of 250 pounds, she is not greedy and wouldn't want to see children going without but she still does struggle when it comes to providing for her children they are young and growing at a rate of knots!

They don't tax into account the GF's child maintenance that she is receiving.

Tax credits are classed as household income, so even if it is paid to the NRP's GF, it is still classed as partly being his income.

when_will_it_end

PreludeForTimeFeelers wrote: »

They don't tax into account the GF's child maintenance that she is receiving.

Tax credits are classed as household income, so even if it is paid to the NRP's GF, it is still classed as partly being his income.

thanks for that he was trying to say that they took her CM in to account also

a new excuse he just come up with is he will have to make a 500 mile round trip to see the children for the weekend and if he had them at his house then 1000 miles per visit, this would be done no more than 5 times a yr do they take this in to account it would be by car

thanks

HappyMJ

when_will_it_end wrote: »

thanks for that he was trying to say that they took her CM in to account also

a new excuse he just come up with is he will have to make a 500 mile round trip to see the children for the weekend and if he had them at his house then 1000 miles per visit, this would be done no more than 5 times a yr do they take this in to account it would be by car

thanks

They can take it into account but not all of it and only the petrol is used in the calculation or public transport costs if it is cheaper and just as or not much less convenient than driving.

Caz3121

they assume £15 per week for travel (that is not counted) so that is £780 per annum so only if each trip would be assessed as over £156 would there be an allowance, and even then it is only a deduction from his pay. So if they agree £170 is acceptable for travel then they would deduct £14 per week from his pay before calculating maintenance...saving £2.60 in maintenance per week

The assessment of £93 would have been calculated as
total of his income and the household tax credits
deduct 25% for the children living with him
then 25% of what is left
so this indicates his income plus tax credits is £500 per week