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If Greece does go Bust?

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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Have any Greek politicians (present and past) apologised to their people for getting them into this mess? Or are they all still blaming the Germans?
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    edited 17 February 2012 at 5:18PM
    tomterm8 wrote: »
    The above law is damn near a copy of the law they used after the German hyperinflation, and it pretty quickly established a new currency. Since then, similar laws have been used time after time.
    As I said before, that kind of operation is entirely different. It's a change of currency unit, not a true change of currency. Nobody loses from the change.

    The trouble starts when the new currency is going to float against the old one.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • wellused
    wellused Posts: 1,678 Forumite
    The Germans hold a new version of the D mark as they used to fear that the communists in the East were planning to undermine their old currency by flooding the system with counterfeit money, The Germans could solve the problem at a stroke by leaving the Euro and letting it find it's true value, the PIIGS debt would be cut at a stroke.
  • wellused wrote: »
    The Germans hold a new version of the D mark as they used to fear that the communists in the East were planning to undermine their old currency by flooding the system with counterfeit money, The Germans could solve the problem at a stroke by leaving the Euro and letting it find it's true value, the PIIGS debt would be cut at a stroke.

    And the global economy would go to ratsh*t and we'd have a second Great Depression.
    A bank is a place that will lend you money if you can prove you don't need it.
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    pqrdef wrote: »
    As I said before, that kind of operation is entirely different. It's a change of currency unit, not a true change of currency. Nobody loses from the change.

    The trouble starts when the new currency is going to float against the old one.

    In the above examples people lost huge amounts from the changes.

    And, basically, in these cases the governments were abandoning a currency and starting afresh.

    In practical terms there is no real difference.
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    tomterm8 wrote: »
    In the above examples people lost huge amounts from the changes.

    And, basically, in these cases the governments were abandoning a currency and starting afresh.

    In practical terms there is no real difference.
    Don't remember any such problems when the euro was introduced.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • ILW wrote: »
    Have any Greek politicians (present and past) apologised to their people for getting them into this mess? Or are they all still blaming the Germans?

    The usa is in far worse shape, will they blame the politicians when the crash comes there?
    Big deflation your debts are going up against everything else. I would not like to be a property owner with a big mortgage right now, pay off your debts ASAP!
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    pqrdef wrote: »
    Don't remember any such problems when the euro was introduced.


    ???

    Who said anything about the introduction of the euro. We are talking about establishing a new currency after an old one has failed.

    Very different scenario than the euro.
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • pqrdef wrote: »
    Don't remember any such problems when the euro was introduced.

    Have you never noticed how our coinage has been changed to be similar to Euro coinage?
  • Have you never noticed how our coinage has been changed to be similar to Euro coinage?

    Interesting, but what will happen when the Euro fails soon? Will we go back to old pence?
    Big deflation your debts are going up against everything else. I would not like to be a property owner with a big mortgage right now, pay off your debts ASAP!
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