Boss wont pay us on payday - wants to wait a week?

Lovelyjoolz

LadyMissA wrote: »

well sorry if I got that wrong there as I was under the impression it would effect your P60 and stuff

It's probably best not to comment on things you're unsure of then, just in case you send someone spiralling off in the wrong direction.

LadyMissA wrote: »

Anyway I would not let a company pay me late as I have no overdraft and would have no way of getting to work for the week if they didnt pay me and all the bills would bounce on a Basic bank account.

I'm not sure how you would stop someone paying you late LadyMissA. What would you do?

The reality is that sometimes pay is delayed. Through system failures, lack of cashflow or human error, these things unfortunately do happen. To not have a safety measure in place to protect your finances is to be in a very foolish position.

In this climate, better to be paid late than not to be paid at all.

LadyMissA

Lovelyjoolz wrote: »

It's probably best not to comment on things you're unsure of then, just in case you send someone spiralling off in the wrong direction.



I'm not sure how you would stop someone paying you late LadyMissA. What would you do?

The reality is that sometimes pay is delayed. Through system failures, lack of cashflow or human error, these things unfortunately do happen. To not have a safety measure in place to protect your finances is to be in a very foolish position.

In this climate, better to be paid late than not to be paid at all.

the poster also thought it would effect the P60 and tax etc so not just me

'To not have a safety measure in place to protect your finances is to be in a very foolish position.'

Is that meant for the employee or the employeer too!?

Some people live pay packet to pay packet - I know I did.

Companies can do what they like to all employees if no one is willing to take a stand and you say it's better to be paid late than not have a job well that's why no one says anything.

Lovelyjoolz

OK, so if you can't get an overdraft on a basic bank account, are there any expenses due to go out in the next three weeks that you can delay enough to cover the shortfall? I realise that not everyone has spare cash left over at the end of each month and that times are hard, but it's not like the pay will be a month late, it's just a week. I can't see that there is anything you can do to make him pay you on the 2nd, so you need to come up with a solution. Can you delay another bill / cancel a night out / buy less food or something to stop the DDs from bouncing?

Lovelyjoolz

LadyMissA wrote: »

the poster also thought it would effect the P60 and tax etc so not just me

Look, plenty of people are owed wages at the end of the tax year. Unless everyone is paid bang up to date on the 5th April, then that is the reality of it. If an employer pays someone every month on the 18th day, then on the 5th April, those employees are owed three weeks pay or thereabouts. And that happens every year. Why do you think its an issue?

LadyMissA wrote: »

Is that meant for the employee or the employeer too!?

Both, of course.

LadyMissA wrote: »

Companies can do what they like to all employees if no one is willing to take a stand and you say it's better to be paid late than not have a job well that's why no one says anything.

Unfortunately, yes. Because at the end of the day, companies choose to employ you (or not). They can choose to un-employ you too. Simple.

jc808

Googlewhacker wrote: »

Techincally its a breach of contract but by the time you do anything about it he will be paid.

At least the employer has given ample warning but beware that if this becomes common place that you may want to start looking for a new job sharpish!

If this is a one off and not a change of payment dates going forward, its a very clear sign the company is in serious financial trouble.

chrisbur

I cannot offer a lot of advice on your imediate problem but I think that you need to establish exactly what is being done with the wages. It is not clear whether the employer is just paying late on the next wage or if they are changing the date of payment permanently. If it is just a one off delay then the next payment would be due on the 30th and the tax year would end here as it would normally. The first payday in the new year would then be 27 April and everything would continue as before this one off change. But if this was a permanent change of payday with the 30 March now being paid on 6 April and then every four weeks after that then your last payday for this year becomes the 9 March payday but this will only have used 48 weeks of your tax allowance, so either the employer will have to use week 52 on this payday and so reduce the tax paid, run a payroll for week 52 with no pay to produce a tax rebate, or you will have to apply for a tax rebate when you get the P60. Problems do not end there though if this is a permanent change, you now have fourteen paydays falling in next year. The last payday will be 5 April which if done correctly should be treated as a week 56.

As to what happens regarding tax credits on a 48 week year then a 56 week year I have no idea, I think it would be best to find out for sure exactly what is happening first.