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Loan APR help please - in shock...

zoobyzoo
zoobyzoo Posts: 16 Forumite
I'd be really grateful for some advice. Bit stunned, but have a horrible feeling I've been very naive.

I have been wanting to change my car since starting a new job six months ago far from where I live. Currently I'm spending about £600 per month on petrol. Having got my credit cards sorted out in Oct/Nov (0% balance transfer etc) I decided to wait a few months before applying for a loan to buy the car. So I applied for the M&S loan which was advertised at 6% APR, and I was approved just a few hours ago, but not at the advertised rate. I rang up, and the APR they offered me was... 16%! :mad:

I spoke to an underwriter and they mentioned a couple of things that may have affected this: a) the fact that I'd only been with my current employer for 6 months and b) that I'd applied for 2 credit cards in November (one of which was an M&S credit card I hasten to add).

Now I have only been with my employers for 6 months but that was because I've just had a promotion, and am now earning close to £75k pa. Prior to that I have been in continuous employment since leaving university 8 years ago. As for the credit applications, I applied at the end of October and deliberately waited for 3 months before I made this loan application so that it wouldn't affect me adversely.

I am really upset, and panicking now as I am haemorrhaging money from this car and was really hoping to change it asap. Ironically having made this application I imagine I'm even less likely to be offered a reasonable APR for loans any time soon :(

I'd be incredibly grateful for any advice offered. Just feeling very disappointed and worried about the future :(

Thank you in advance.
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  • BoGoF
    BoGoF Posts: 7,099 Forumite
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    Not sure what you want to hear.....you either take the rate offered or you don't and look elsewhere. They've told you the reasons why you were offered the rate they did (which is unusual in itself).

    In all honesty you haven't allowed enough time.....2 applications in November....giving it the 3 months you claim wouldn't be now.

    Have to say if I earned £75k I wouldn't say £600 per month was a drain on my finances.

    Have you considered finance through a garage?
  • talana
    talana Posts: 1,077 Forumite
    ......and am now earning close to £75k pa.
    With your income as above, unclear why you need a loan in the first place for this car?
    Save for a few months then buy.
    Or go for something smaller, cheaper and less of a gas-guzzler now.
  • zoobyzoo
    zoobyzoo Posts: 16 Forumite
    I applied at the end of October and was approved in the first day or so of November, so yes it is actually a week shy of 3 months. And yes, £600 is a drain on my finances given my other outgoings. The question I am asking is if anyone has experience of these decisions being reviewed, or how long is appropriate to wait between applications. I did read on the site about waiting 2-3 months between applications which is what I thought I had done...
  • zoobyzoo
    zoobyzoo Posts: 16 Forumite
    talana wrote: »
    With your income as above, unclear why you need a loan in the first place for this car?
    Save for a few months then buy.
    Or go for something smaller, cheaper and less of a gas-guzzler now.

    I haven't gone into detail about my expenditure, so my income is a bit of a red herring (other than the fact I can afford the loan repayments). Suffice to say that I do need a loan to buy a car, and the whole point is that I am looking to buy a second-hand, smaller, cheaper car!
  • BoGoF
    BoGoF Posts: 7,099 Forumite
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    Maybe it's your 'other outgoings' that are the problem then.

    The full picture helps us give advice.
  • BoGoF
    BoGoF Posts: 7,099 Forumite
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    zoobyzoo wrote: »
    I haven't gone into detail about my expenditure, so my income is a bit of a red herring (other than the fact I can afford the loan repayments). Suffice to say that I do need a loan to buy a car, and the whole point is that I am looking to buy a second-hand, smaller, cheaper car!

    You'll find that saying "I can afford the loan repayments" doesn't work with lenders.

    Sell your car, but a smaller, cheaper car.....
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    how much do you expect to save per month in fuel for the car?
    how much would your loan repayments be per month?

    do you have any debts?
    do you use your overdraft?
    on the electoral roll?
    property owner or renting?
  • talana
    talana Posts: 1,077 Forumite
    zoobyzoo wrote: »
    I haven't gone into detail about my expenditure, so my income is a bit of a red herring (other than the fact I can afford the loan repayments). Suffice to say that I do need a loan to buy a car, and the whole point is that I am looking to buy a second-hand, smaller, cheaper car!

    So for 6 months now you've been earning £75k pa, and you're basically telling us you have no savings to buy a cheap runaround?! :eek:

    Sorry, but your expenditure very much is an issue then.

    As for the loan, as Bogof said, you take their offer or you don't.
  • zoobyzoo
    zoobyzoo Posts: 16 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    how much do you expect to save per month in fuel for the car? £300. I'd also be making substantial savings in terms of tax, insurance and general running costs
    how much would your loan repayments be per month? £352 at 6%, but could go higher for a slightly higher APR

    do you have any debts? 2 credit cards, paying off more than the minimum, and both will be paid off within the 0% period. Also a mortgage, and another loan which would be paid off from the sale of my current car and a little extra on the loan
    do you use your overdraft? Yes, and I am being charged for it; part of the loan was to pay this off to obliterate the charges which amount to around £50 per month
    on the electoral roll? yes
    property owner or renting? Owner

    To clarify, the loan amount will cover the cost of the new car, my overdraft and the balance on my existing loan. I have worked out all the costs and would be able to afford this, and changing my car would definitely make me better off. And I have also gone through the moneysaving guide/spreadsheet and reduced my expenditure heavily over the last six months.

    Thanks for your time :)
  • zoobyzoo wrote: »
    the whole point is that I am looking to buy a second-hand, smaller, cheaper car!

    Surely unless you're sticking large amounts in a Monaco bank account in the name of your dog, three months of saving less than half your £4k salary would allow you to buy what you needed outright?
    “In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing at all.” - Roosevelt
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