Forcing me to take holiday?

montymud

Ah, clear as mud. Very helpful - thank you.

heretolearn_2

It's very normal to do this. Ideally when you leave your annual leave 'balance' would be zero - you've taken exactly what you are entitled to.


You've accrued X amount of holiday between your start and finish dates. You are now taking that holiday between your start and finish dates.

If you'd carried on working for them, you'd have taken that holiday at some point, so what's changed? You were hoping for a leaving 'bonus'? Few firms will let you do that if there's time for you to take your holiday in your notice period.

I don't see why you think they are doing something so terrible, to be honest. If you employed, I don't know, a nanny for your children and she handed in her notice to you, honestly if she had holiday accrued wouldn't you tell her to take it during that notice period. Or hand on heart you'd let her work all through and then be happy to have to find extra money to pay her on top of her normal salary for her final payday?

Uncertain

Jarndyce wrote: »

Yes they are allowed to require you to take leave during your notice period - or at any other time come to that.

Yes but they have to give twice the length of notice as length of holiday so they may not be able to make the OP take all of it.

However, many contracts have a clause saying that untaken holiday must be taken during the notice unless the firm say otherwise. In this case the notice to take holiday is regarded as given.

montymud

heretolearn wrote: »

It's very normal to do this. Ideally when you leave your annual leave 'balance' would be zero - you've taken exactly what you are entitled to.


You've accrued X amount of holiday between your start and finish dates. You are now taking that holiday between your start and finish dates.

If you'd carried on working for them, you'd have taken that holiday at some point, so what's changed? You were hoping for a leaving 'bonus'? Few firms will let you do that if there's time for you to take your holiday in your notice period.

I don't see why you think they are doing something so terrible, to be honest. If you employed, I don't know, a nanny for your children and she handed in her notice to you, honestly if she had holiday accrued wouldn't you tell her to take it during that notice period. Or hand on heart you'd let her work all through and then be happy to have to find extra money to pay her on top of her normal salary for her final payday?

Not sure why you have to make those assumptions you made in your middle paragraph, your response is insightful and your opinion respected and fair, perhaps you could try not to make such negative assumptions in the future?

agrinnall

montymud wrote: »

Not sure why you have to make those assumptions you made in your middle paragraph, your response is insightful and your opinion respected and fair, perhaps you could try not to make such negative assumptions in the future?

If that isn't the reason why you've asked the question then I'm not sure what you have to worry about, you'd either be paid for working or paid for taking holiday so it all comes out the same in the end.

jazzyman01

It is the employee who has to give 2 x the actual time of the holiday, i.e. give 8 days notice for 4 days holiday.

Uncertain

jazzyman01 wrote: »

It is the employee who has to give 2 x the actual time of the holiday, i.e. give 8 days notice for 4 days holiday.

Works both ways....

An employer can tell an employee to take all/some paid holiday days given that they provide the employee with notice that is equivalent to twice the intended holiday period.

Googlewhacker

montymud wrote: »

The reason that I asked is that I usually work 5 shifts per week but when I firast started I was employed on a 3 shift a week basis. What they have done is taken the extra 2 days off me that I would usually work and the other 3 days I would work they have given me one shift only and 2 days holiday therefore cutting my weekly shifts by two. I didn't explain this in the first instance because I didnt think it was needed but then there are the narrow minded individuals that make assumptions about other people because they have not been supplied all the facts.

I have always very much liked this forum, shame about the odd person that seems to like to find reasons to get !!!!!! with other people.

P.S I cannot be arsed to argue with you so if you would like to voice your narrow minded opinion be my guest, have a little vent, tell everyone how right and noble you are then !!!! off because I wont be replying

To be fair its you who is getting arsey with everyone....no wonder the company are playing hard ball and making you use holiday if this is how you act with them.

You say you were employed on 3 shifts so are you hardly surprised that they are going to stick to this in your notice period considering you are leaving the company?

agrinnall

So actually it isn't really the holiday that's the issue, it's the fact that they've cut your shifts so that you are now only getting paid for 3 (but working just 1) rather than 5. I can see why that would annoy you but from the employer's point of view they are doing what your contract says and they probably feel that if you don't want to work there any more they would rather give any extra shifts to people who will be staying. I don't really think there is anything you can do about it I'm afraid. Hope you enjoy your time at home with the kids, I'm sure they'll appreciate it.

heretolearn_2

*sigh* second time this month I'm getting an aggressive response for answering the question an OP actually posted, instead of the completely different question they actually had in mind but decided not to post for whatever reason.

Oh well, another one to add to the 'ignore in future' list.