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How Long on Notice ?

Looks like the o/h is going to be terminated ( job wise , not Arnie style ) because of ill health , no problems with that as the hospital where she works have been great while she has been on sick leave but everyone agrees her condition is never going to improve only worsen , has a meeting with HR and manager this week to consider the options for her . Query is ...........
Do PT workers have same notice rights as Full Time workers ?
With 12 years service and over 45 should this be 1.5 weeks per year ? or is it Pro-rata ? as her pay rate ?
Can she ask for PILON or is this only an option for the Employer ?
Any help gratefully received !
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  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    With 12y+ service statutory notice would be 12 weeks.

    If off sick then it makes little difference to how it is paid.

    What else is on offer, severence, redundancy, ill health retirement.........?
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    Most employers who have been supportive will allow employee to make decision on how its paid i.e lumpsum, over the three months, 12 years service = 12 weeks pay so roughly 3 moths, would also get accured annual leave. Depending what job she did, she may be able to get permanant injury benifit, early pension,
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  • KiKi
    KiKi Posts: 5,381 Forumite
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    edited 17 January 2012 at 11:27PM
    EycplUK wrote: »
    Do PT workers have same notice rights as Full Time workers ?

    Yes.

    With 12 years service and over 45 should this be 1.5 weeks per year ? or is it Pro-rata ? as her pay rate ?

    Edited to say: 1 week's pay for every year up to 12 years. (Sorry OP, completely misread your first post and posted the wrong info!)

    It won't be pro-ratad; as a part-timer her pay is already calculated pro rata.

    Can she ask for PILON or is this only an option for the Employer ?

    She can ask, and if she's off anyway, they may grant it.

    HTH
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  • SarEl
    SarEl Posts: 5,683 Forumite
    KiKi wrote: »

    1.5 week's pay for every year she was over 41. 1 week for every year over 22 but under 41.

    Either I am sleepy or you are! This is the redundancy calculation and she isn't being made redundant - it's a capability dismissal on ill health grounds. So notice is one week per full year served for all ages up to the maximum of 12 weeks.
  • an9i77
    an9i77 Posts: 1,460 Forumite
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    edited 17 January 2012 at 10:46PM
    SarEl you are not being sleepy, I think KiKi is! OP it's one week per year of service so 12 weeks, unless the notice period stated in the contract exceeds this.
  • KiKi
    KiKi Posts: 5,381 Forumite
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    I'm SO being sleepy! Many apologies, OP!!! I'm all about the redundancy today! I'll amend my original post so that the OP doesn't get confused!

    Think I'll stay away from here for a while, I'm clearly too confuzzled this week to post properly! :D

    So sorry! :o
    KiKi
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  • EycplUK
    EycplUK Posts: 777 Forumite
    Just thought i would let you know how it went at the meeting ........
    As said before the hospital has been great while i was on sick leave and this attitude carrird on to my interview !
    With both my service manager and H/R boss at the meeting the first thing said to me was " are you sure this meeting will not be too taxing for you ? as we can always arrange a future date for you ! "
    Which i thought was very thoughtful of them both !
    I said i was happy to proceed at this time and they then went through my work record, which they told me was only 1 of 2 perfect 100% attendance records in the whole Trust , and my current sickness reports from my Dr and the in-house O/H with the overall opinion being that a return to work would be impossible for me to safely resume !
    After discussing my options the Trust has given me 12 weeks notice on Full pay , the option of PILON , and the offer of a goodbye meeting with my work colleauge`s at my choosing of date !
    I must emphasize how much this was carried out in a sympthetic and comfortable manner throughout !
    I thank you all for your comments on this topic and just hope that anyone following in my foosteps receives the same high standard of assistance from both the Employer and this forum !
    Thank You All :T
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  • Uncertain
    Uncertain Posts: 3,901 Forumite
    edited 19 January 2012 at 9:02AM
    It is good that they are behaving correctly!

    In case you are not aware you continue to accrue holiday (at least at the statutory minimum rate of 28 days per year) all the time you have been off sick and during your notice period. They will have to pay you for this as well. I'm sure they will but it is worth double checking their calculations.

    It is most unlikely this type of organisation would try to pull a fast one. However I have seen several situations where employers have been all nice and cuddly then tried to get away with less than their legal obligations!
  • mazza111
    mazza111 Posts: 6,327 Forumite
    I was just going to bring up the holiday pay.

    A lot of companies and NHS trusts work things differently.

    When I was Ill Health Retired it was 9 weeks PILON, 34 weeks wages + accrued holiday. 12 weeks was the maximum PILON at that time, don't know if it's changed
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  • Uncertain
    Uncertain Posts: 3,901 Forumite
    mazza111 wrote: »
    I was just going to bring up the holiday pay.

    A lot of companies and NHS trusts work things differently.

    The holiday point I mentioned is a legal requirement. They cannot give less however "differently" they may choose to do things!
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