Help with employers and illness

tomjonesrules

bettyboo333 wrote: »

Very harsh hoping for some support not harsh comments let me quess you work for the same organisation!! and my work is not predominently dependant on driving

I don't find Emmzi's post harsh, rather she has given a realistic view of the duty to make reasonable adjustments. The key here is reasonableness, what can the employer (and you) do that can help you in your role without being unduly costly or burdensome?

Have you offered your employer some ideas for reasonable adjustments?

bettyboo333

tomjonesrules wrote: »

I don't find Emmzi's post harsh, rather she has given a realistic view of the duty to make reasonable adjustments. The key here is reasonableness, what can the employer (and you) do that can help you in your role without being unduly costly or burdensome?

Have you offered your employer some ideas for reasonable adjustments?

Yes I have and they are reasonable measures of sharing work with a very supportive colleque but it's not going anywhere thank you all for the comments but feeling worse now than when I posted, I understand where employers stand but I have not asked to be diabetic nor did I ask to probably loose my liscence...was hoping to feel more positive after posting on here but feel much worse will end it here I think xxx

tomjonesrules

bettyboo333 wrote: »

Yes I have and they are reasonable measures of sharing work with a very supportive colleque but it's not going anywhere thank you all for the comments but feeling worse now than when I posted, I understand where employers stand but I have not asked to be diabetic nor did I ask to probably loose my liscence...was hoping to feel more positive after posting on here but feel much worse will end it here I think xxx

What will the supportive colleague do with her own workload?

I don't understand why you are being so defensive, people are trying to be helpful but you are unwilling to consider anything but your own viewpoint.

bettyboo333

tomjonesrules wrote: »

What will the supportive colleague do with her own workload?

I don't understand why you are being so defensive, people are trying to be helpful but you are unwilling to consider anything but your own viewpoint.

I'm not being defensive and I apologise if I sound like that am really worried as If I loose my job I will also loose the house and with two small kids to support it's not easy...I'd say that I can carry out 90% of my job being clinic based and my colleaque is willing to help me out in one area which means home visits while I help her in her clinics. Have been doing this job for over 15 yrs and I really do love it but I don't feel supported any more Thanks for your help anyway..from what I've seen here I think I might start looking for a cheap place to rent!!! lol x

tomjonesrules

So stop feeling sorry for yourself and focus your energies on a constructive solution. Put together a business case on how this variation of duties could benefit the department. Give this to your managers and ask them to come back to you with any concerns, which you can then address.

I have seen RAs work very effectively in the NHS, but in all instances they have been worked out by the worker not the Trust.

ohreally

Why don't you let your union rep explore possible solutions and then have a discussion with union and line manager.

If meetings are becoming intrusive, send your rep and email documenting this and copy your line manager in on it.

SarEl

I think some of the advice you have had is hard to hear, and I think we all understand that. But please believe me when I say that tea and sympathy is best reserved for your best friends "job" - our most experienced posters here (me possibly amongst them) will tell you the truth where your friends (and sometimes your union) won't for fear of making you feel bad. There is nothing worse than telling people what they don't want to hear, and it takes a certain amount of bravery to do it - so please give people the credit that what they are doing is giving you fair warning of what can happen so that you are better armed to deal with it and if possible stop it.

At this stage you (and your union) need to concentrate on documenting what is happening and what is said, and trying to evidence as far as possible what is (or isn't) happening to help you with your situation. No matter how distressing this may be, you must focus on co-operation with the employer (and I do not mean co-opertaing in terms of resigning! - I mean being sweetness and light and getting the job done). Because no matter how good a case you may eventually end up with, if discrimination can be evidenced, by the time things have got to the "no other option than a tribunal" stage, you have lost - even if you win a tribunal. You will not have your job, and any amount of award you get will not be what you expect, and more importantly, not what you need. Awards are like sand through an hour glass - the money runs out fast. And you will be left with no money and possibly no way back in to employment that is easy. So you avoid tribunals until there is no other resort - try to sort it out with the help of the union.

I am sure that this won't be what you want to hear, but there are many people here with first hand experience of the law, tribunals and HR, and I don't think one of us would ever be recommending the law as a way to go unless you have no other choices. Unfortunately, we all know that the harsh reality is that an employer with the sort of resources you are describing is going to be far more careful to protect their position that you could possibly imagine - and your only defence against this is to be at least as careful as they are. You are fortunate to have union representation - use them to take the starin where possible.

bettyboo333

SarEl wrote: »

I think some of the advice you have had is hard to hear, and I think we all understand that. But please believe me when I say that tea and sympathy is best reserved for your best friends "job" - our most experienced posters here (me possibly amongst them) will tell you the truth where your friends (and sometimes your union) won't for fear of making you feel bad. There is nothing worse than telling people what they don't want to hear, and it takes a certain amount of bravery to do it - so please give people the credit that what they are doing is giving you fair warning of what can happen so that you are better armed to deal with it and if possible stop it.

At this stage you (and your union) need to concentrate on documenting what is happening and what is said, and trying to evidence as far as possible what is (or isn't) happening to help you with your situation. No matter how distressing this may be, you must focus on co-operation with the employer (and I do not mean co-opertaing in terms of resigning! - I mean being sweetness and light and getting the job done). Because no matter how good a case you may eventually end up with, if discrimination can be evidenced, by the time things have got to the "no other option than a tribunal" stage, you have lost - even if you win a tribunal. You will not have your job, and any amount of award you get will not be what you expect, and more importantly, not what you need. Awards are like sand through an hour glass - the money runs out fast. And you will be left with no money and possibly no way back in to employment that is easy. So you avoid tribunals until there is no other resort - try to sort it out with the help of the union.

I am sure that this won't be what you want to hear, but there are many people here with first hand experience of the law, tribunals and HR, and I don't think one of us would ever be recommending the law as a way to go unless you have no other choices. Unfortunately, we all know that the harsh reality is that an employer with the sort of resources you are describing is going to be far more careful to protect their position that you could possibly imagine - and your only defence against this is to be at least as careful as they are. You are fortunate to have union representation - use them to take the starin where possible.

Thank you the comments that you have made have helped look clearly at the situation and as I won't give in I'm also aware of their position...all I want to do is to get my life back to some normality and that includes work so many people have told me "ohhh you're sick therefore get the benefits!!! I would never do that as I feel proud when I've done a days work thanks again for your coments even though they are still hard to digest xxxxxx