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Council House sub-letting to be criminalized

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  • Pont
    Pont Posts: 1,459 Forumite
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    purch wrote: »
    In English the word is spelt criminalised :eek:



    P.S. You can spell Social Housing in anyway you choose ;)

    Oh dear, I now fear I'm about to open a can of worms!

    It was always my understanding (O levels, A levels, degree) that the OED suggests that 'izes' and 'ations' are with a 'z' and 'isms' are with a 's'.

    http://www.oed.com/public/faqs#spell


    Why does the OED spell verbs such as organize and recognize in this way?

    The suffix -ize comes ultimately from the Greek verb stem -izein. In both English and French, many words with this ending have been adopted (usually via Latin), and many more have been invented by adding the suffix to existing words. In modern French the verb stem has become -iser, and this may have encouraged the use of -ise in English, especially in verbs that have reached English via French. The -ise spelling of verbs is now very common in British use, and Oxford dictionaries published in the UK generally show both forms where they are in use, but give -ize first as it reflects both the origin and the pronunciation more closely, while indicating that -ise is an allowable variant. Usage varies across the English-speaking world, so it is important to record both spellings where they exist. There are a number of verbs with only one accepted spelling – advise and capsize, for example. This is not just perverse: they have different etymologies. The important thing is that people should be consistent in the form they use in a given document.



    Eg., in my view, realize, realization, realized and realism - organize, organization, organized and organism etc.

    Soz!!!!!
  • Graham_Devon
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    Love labours response!!....
    Labour frontbencher Maria Eagle said Mr Shapps's latest announcement was "trying to hide the fact that he has presided over a 99% fall in the last six months in new housing [construction project] starts".


    They really are trying to simply disagree with abolutely everything, no matter what it takes.
  • PasturesNew
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    How about leaving council house rents as super low as they currently are .... and fix private rents at a max of 1.5x the council rent :)

    In most areas you can't rent a studio/bedsit as cheaply as a council 3-bed semi would be.

    Why'd you want more rents to be higher.... it's better if all rents were lower.
  • treliac
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    ILW wrote: »
    Dos make you wonder why it has never been addressed before. I see no reason why offspring of council tenants should have higher priority than those who privately rent or buy.
    StevieJ wrote: »
    I do, it is their home, the problem came from selling them off in the first place. I do find this 'lucky to have one' quite fascinating, I don't think it was long ago when people couldn't get out of them fast enough. I can't believe it has improved any, when all the best ones have been sold off.


    Isn't it set to change at some point so that future tenants will only be able to remain in a council house provided their family needs the space, the expectation being that once the kids leave home they will have to downsize. Presumably, if the kids remain at home their position will be reviewed once the parents pass away or move into care.... by the same principle.
  • Road_Hog
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    Pont wrote: »
    Oh dear, I now fear I'm about to open a can of worms!

    It was always my understanding (O levels, A levels, degree) that the OED suggests that 'izes' and 'ations' are with a 'z' and 'isms' are with a 's'.

    http://www.oed.com/public/faqs#spell

    The OED is wrong, poor quality and is a subversive Marxist publication, that regulary changes the definition of words to suit its Left leaning agenda.

    The Cambridge dictionary (for the moment) is far superior.

    organize
    verb ( ARRANGE ) (UK usually organise)
  • Masomnia
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    Well, there have only been two editions so I don't know how it can 'regularly change'.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • Road_Hog
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    Masomnia wrote: »
    Well, there have only been two editions so I don't know how it can 'regularly change'.

    "The OED is updated four times a year, every March, June, September, and December."

    http://www.oed.com/help/updates/pimesic-pleating.html


    QED
  • Masomnia
    Masomnia Posts: 19,506 Forumite
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    Road_Hog wrote: »
    "The OED is updated four times a year, every March, June, September, and December."

    http://www.oed.com/help/updates/pimesic-pleating.html


    QED

    Fair enough.

    Doesn't change much though, the Cambridge dictionary also seems to prefer -ize, if you look up 'organise' you are redirected to 'organize'.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • A._Badger
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    Road_Hog wrote: »
    The OED is wrong, poor quality and is a subversive Marxist publication, that regulary changes the definition of words to suit its Left leaning agenda.

    The Cambridge dictionary (for the moment) is far superior.

    organize
    verb ( ARRANGE ) (UK usually organise)

    This really is the most arrant nonsense. The '-ize' ending is the original form in English and is retained by the OED - however curious it looks to some.

    The '-ise' ending is more common now but is a (relatively) recent development (gaining popularity post WWII).

    Many academic publishers still stipulate the 'z' and The Times dropped its use only relatively recently.

    If it's a 'commie plot' you'd best dig up Fowler as he was quite strong on this.
  • michaels
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    All very interesting but I do wish I had just used an S now so we could have discussed the issue...smiley_shrug.gifsmiley_shrug.gif&w=35&h=15&ei=bOYBT8WEOI-hOs6o6OgM&zoom=1
    I think....
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