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  • quintwins
    quintwins Posts: 5,179 Forumite
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    hanes wrote: »
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    i have given up on the SOA seems harder to use than the budget planner i have here.

    http://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/yourmoney/interactive/budget_planner.aspx

    you still need to include it as it will still need paid, what if your situation lasts longer than 12 months, or maybe you paid it a few months ago then you'll be stuck trying to find £145 at a moments notice (well a months notice from when you recieve a letter)

    the soa is easy enough to use just keep at it then maybe check it against your budget planner to make sure you have included everything
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  • cleggie
    cleggie Posts: 2,169 Forumite
    If you can, bear with the SOA as you could get some great advice from the people on here.
  • cutestkids
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    hanes wrote: »
    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet
    Household Information
    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 1
    Number of cars owned.................... 1
    Monthly Income Details
    Monthly income after tax................ 1217.66
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 983.58
    Benefits................................ 357
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 2558.24
    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 0
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 475
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 130
    Electricity............................. 42
    Gas..................................... 45
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 21
    Telephone (land line)................... 52 This is high what does it include
    Mobile phone............................ 58 Again this is very high should reduce tariff or PAYG and only use for emergency
    TV Licence.............................. 0 you need to put something here should be about £12.00 month
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 0 is this included in the phone
    Groceries etc. ......................... 286
    Clothing................................ 0
    Petrol/diesel........................... 86
    Road tax................................ 9.16
    Car Insurance........................... 0 need something here
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0 need something here
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 689 do you not get any tax credit or childcare vouchers
    Other child related expenses............ 217 what is this for
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0 you need something here
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 0
    Contents insurance...................... 0 best to have this
    Life assurance ......................... 0 this is something you really should have if you have children
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0 you need to put something here
    Haircuts................................ 0 again do you never use barber or salon
    Entertainment........................... 0 nothing at all?
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 2110.16

    Assets
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0 You should put the value of the car
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 0

    Secured & HP Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 0........(0)........0
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 100.9....(0)........0 is this actually on o%
    Total secured & HP debts...... 100.9.....-.........-
    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Capital one....................474.......23.75.....0is this actually on o%
    Car finance....................9144......254.5.....0is this actually on o%
    Hsbc Loan......................0.........144.9.....0is this actually on o%
    Total unsecured debts..........9618......423.15....-

    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 2,558.24
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 2,110.16
    Available for debt repayments........... 448.08
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 423.15
    Amount left after debt repayments....... 24.93
    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 0
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -100.9
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -9,618
    Net Assets.............................. -9,718.9
    Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using IE browser.

    Third time Editing


    There are quite a few essentials missing from you SOA which you need to fill in to give a true picture of your outgoings
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  • hanes wrote: »
    Ok so im hoping this is the final draft

    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet
    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 1
    Number of cars owned.................... 1
    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 1217
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 983
    Benefits................................ 356
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 2556

    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 0
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 475
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 130 See if you can pay over 12 months instead of 10
    Electricity............................. 42 Check comparison sites as on the high side
    Gas..................................... 45 as above
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 21
    Telephone (land line)................... 0
    Mobile phone............................ 58 When do the contracts end?
    TV Licence.............................. 0 Need £12.12 in here
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 52 Not essential - switch to Freesat
    Internet Services....................... 0
    Groceries etc. ......................... 286 Try the Grocery Challenge on the Old Style board - you should be able to get this down by around £100 with some planning etc
    Clothing................................ 0
    Petrol/diesel........................... 82
    Road tax................................ 9.16
    Car Insurance........................... 74 Very high for 1 car - check comparison sites
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0 Need something in here - at least £20 but prob more depending on age of car
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 689
    Other child related expenses............ 217
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0 Need something in here
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 0
    Contents insurance...................... 0 Need to get this ASAP
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0 Need something in here
    Haircuts................................ 32 To high each month - try an extra few weeks between cuts / student nights etc
    Entertainment........................... 0 Need something in here - even £20
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0 Need something in here
    Total monthly expenses.................. 2212.16


    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0 Need to add your car in here
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 0


    Secured & HP Debts

    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 0........(0)........0
    Hire Purchase (HP) debt ...... 100.9....(0)........0
    Total secured & HP debts...... 100.9.....-.........-

    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Capital One....................474.......23.74.....0
    Car finance....................9144......254.5.....0
    Bank Loan......................0.........144.9.....0
    Total unsecured debts..........9618......423.14....-


    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 2,556
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 2,212.16
    Available for debt repayments........... 343.84
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 423.14
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -79.3

    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 0
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -100.9
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -9,618
    Net Assets.............................. -9,718.9

    Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using IE browser.

    Your shortfall is more than the £80ish showing above as there's still a lot missing from the SOA - although you may try to find money for these things as they're needed, you really need to put money aside each month to cover them ....

    Sky needs to go (sorry but it's a non-essential) and the haircuts etc reduced.

    When do the mobile contracts finish? I'm afraid you need this money to balance the books.

    Unsure why you're paying a Bank Loan monthly but there's no outstanding amount?

    Sorry but don't think your idea is a good one - taking into account that there are other things that need to be added to the SOA, it will really only be adding to the problem.
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  • Stick with it Hanes, I know the SOA is hard to do and a bit of a pain but hopefully you'll be pointed in the right direction for a live-able debt free future. How long does your Car and Bank loan have left to run? How's your credit rating? Could you get any 0% cards or do you have any cards you can do a shuffle on?
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    Im a smoker too

    Is this for cigarettes, try roll ups, if you cant do it by hand you can buy a rolly tin cheap on ebay.

    Much cheaper than cigs.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • hanes
    hanes Posts: 156 Forumite
    sharronej wrote: »
    Stick with it Hanes, I know the SOA is hard to do and a bit of a pain but hopefully you'll be pointed in the right direction for a live-able debt free future. How long does your Car and Bank loan have left to run? How's your credit rating? Could you get any 0% cards or do you have any cards you can do a shuffle on?


    There are 14 payments left on the loan.

    and 34 remaining on car payments

    credit rating is no good for 0% i believe
  • hanes
    hanes Posts: 156 Forumite
    Well we went shopping today and purchased items enough to make a few meals and freeze them which should last us another 2 weeks once the usual food has run out. £43.88 is what it all came to, hopefully it will last us a fortnight as our daughter returns to nursery where she gets her meals over the course of day.

    so its halved our shopping budget hopefully and now £60 p/m better off if it works as hoped.

    now if i try and quit the smokes that will be another £121 which added to the shopping budget cut down is enough to hopefully cut a debt down by 6 months.

    i'll come back to update but im determined to have that extra £144 from HSBC added to the other savings, means we will actually have a little to put aside as the car will need new tyres barely on the legal limit :eek:
  • If you really must continue smoking try Bayside rolling tobacco from Asda. At £8 for 50 grammes that should last you about a week compared to about 40-odd quid a week for packets of fags.
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