Summary warrant

anniecave

Has his only income been from employment throughout this last 6 years, or does he have an employer and is also self employed or receiving income from other sources as well as the employer?

Has he ever registered for self-assessment or registered himself as self-employed? It's possible to get registered as self-employed in error (a friend of mine had this) and it sounds like from the above they could be asking for estimated tax payments due to possible self-employment. If he has not been self-employed during the time period then the figures will be totally wrong if this is what has happened!

(edit - duplicate post with line above - I agree - it sounds like a proper mess!)

WhiteHorse

An acquaintance of mine who works for HMRC gave this advice in such cases:

"Always demand that they show their workings".

Very often they simply can't (usually because the case file is a complete mess, or the figure was nonsense to start with), or it's not cost effective to do so.

It's also worth bearing in mind that knowingly or recklessly making a false statement in order to obtain a warrant is a very serious offence indeed.

Mikeyorks

On £80k it's quite likely he's required to file SA Returns. Less likely - but still possible - POAs are required if less than 80% of the tax due has been captured via PAYE.

ceeforcat

I really think we need to hear from the op - I think it would help if someone else can agree the total impossibility of the op husband owing £70000 to reassure the poster. Is anyone else appalled at HMRC attitude to this? - talk to your accountant! Disgusting treatment!

vax2002

You may need to get someone involved they will listen to.
I would suggest contacting your MP and ask him to write to the tax inspector and demand a revue.

Mikeyorks

ceeforcat wrote: »

Is anyone else appalled at HMRC attitude to this?

How can we be? We haven't a clue what has been going on since 2006.

If the OP suggests they've just had the figures together with an imminent threat ....... you can guarantee we only have the tip of the iceberg. HMRC do not move that quickly.

antonic

Please remember that for the debt to get to the Summary Warrant stage it is NOT a debt that has suddenly appeared, it is a debt that has been in existence for a tine and perhaps the OP husband is not supplying the information that HMRC want or has been deliberately ignoring letters - without further details we dont know.

I also agree that this may be a mistake HMRC and they certainly do happen ( I have seen enough of them to make this comment).

But we need more info from the OP.

(Also Summary Warrant means OP lives in Scotland).

Please post more info and we will try to hekp.

Purdy2011

thank you for your replys, his P11D is at work but i will get the details from him when he is back there in the morning - he is just home! I would be very very grateful for any advice as I am so so worried about it. The original debt was for £7000 give or take a few pounds and pence, he has been in discussion with HMRC about this as they assumed he recieved full fuel allowance which he did not it was simply a company car, he only had the car for 9 months but they taxed him for 12 so it has taken a long time and lots of letters to get an exact amount to be repaid. He spoke to HMRC just before xmas and they said the amount owed was £7000 ish (they did give him the exact figure but i dont have it to hand) the accountnt also told him it was that amount and then suddenly we get this letter saying he owes £70000 with fees for SA which were late - his SA were filed by his accountant and he has copies of all of them.
we do live in Scotland which i think means it is a summary warrant.
He does not have any other job - he works on average 70 hours per week with very few holidays so has no time for a second job and is not self employed in any capacity, he has one job and pays PAYE and NI monthly.
He does not recieve any other benefits in kind other than a pension and BUPA cover. He handed the car back as it was cleaqrly an expensive benefit. He didnt recieve a pay rise to cover the loss of the car he just handed it back.
His tax code is 1024L. I will ask him to let me have the figures from his P11D tomorrow morning and I will post it . I am very grateful for your help and advice as this is such a major problem for us as I cant get it out of my mind and am very very worried about them ceasing out assets and freezing the bank account.
Any advice is greatly appreciated, I am exhausted thinking about it.

jennifernil

"His tax code is 1024L."............

This is worrying. A normal code is 747L for the current year. if he has a BUPA benefit it would normally reduce the code.

A pension is not a benefit, and usually the employee's contribution is paid before tax is calculated. If this is not the case, the strange tax code might be to do with the pension contributions.

Can you post some payslip info so the experts can see what is going on?

However, even if he has got a wrong code, I cannot see it adding up to £70k tax underpaid in 5 years!

Purdy2011

The details I have from his payslip are
As of 31.10.11
Total gross pay this period 6866.67
Gross for tax 6877.67
Earnings for ni 1770.98
Paye tax 1821.86
Ni 314.43
Pension 11.80
Year to date
Total gross pay to date 48066.69
Gross for tax 47570.69
Tax paid td 12553.46
Earnings for ni 42475.00
Ni td 4331.91

His annual gross salary is £90000 not £80000 as I thought!
Thank you for any help you can give.