What do you think of the UK education system?

Derivative

DVardysShadow wrote: »

This are good contributions. Is say quite clearly about Math equally to English. Compare to students in Asian Countries, English Student is not write proper English also.

eamon

I've been listening & reading about this topic all my adult life and I'm 49yo.
Does education cause such ongoing discussion in other countries? Or are we just really bad at in the UK?

jc808

DVardysShadow wrote: »

This are good contributions. Is say quite clearly about Math equally to English. Compare to students in Asian Countries, English Student is not write proper English also.

Agree!!!!

Many are chidrlen who bad in writing!!! Cannot spelled most words, but can open the playstations!!!
You children are not at mathematics level which sufficient, and is able not to read at accepting levles.... much much bad

Itismehonest

One big difference is that in many nations education is something the children themselves want. In some cases they'll walk miles to get it.

In the UK the majority of children look on it as "something we're made to do by adults".

jc808

Itismehonest wrote: »

One big difference is that in many nations education is something the children themselves want. In some cases they'll walk miles to get it.

In the UK the majority of children look on it as "something we're made to do by adults".

agreed......

adindas

The environment and political pressure make the school try to inflate the grade and make it as easy as possible for the student to pass.

There is disincentive if there are a lot of pupils fail and do not meet the target. So what happen is that the headmasters might tell teachers to make as easy as possible for the pupils to pass even they do not tell them directly so the performance of their school will look good. The headteacher will get promotion his/her school have a good performance.....

Also here the balance of power between the teacher and the student have changed significantly. The teachers do not want to get bad feedback from the students. One thing they might think is to reward the student with high grade so they do not complain or cause trouble.
Also when a good teacher has failed a lot of students they will be asked by the headmaster and only to put the blame to the teacher where in fact the quality of students intake,. Nowadays, more students spending hours to play video game and never care about their lesson as they know they will pass anyway ....

As long as the government keep to put target how many pupils pass as a performance indicator the school will keep put pressure to the teachers to inflate their mark.

The same thing the way the financial institution work, keep rewarding a short term performance. We have seen this systems have failed and caused a lot of trouble.

Ohh Seem the same mistake is repeated her .......

WhiteHorse

Either every child in Britain has suddenly become a towering genius, or the government is fiddling the figures.

Which could it be?

Sambucus_Nigra

The main argument is that all life will revolve around the internet and so, as nobody thinks that grammar, punctuation, spelling, comprehension, sense, is important on the internet - it's not worth teaching it. And we can google for all facts, so lets not bother teaching anyone any.

We all have ourselves to blame. It's not their fault, it's the fault of the generation that designed it.

So if you are complaining about it - you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

saintjammyswine

Itismehonest wrote: »

One big difference is that in many nations education is something the children themselves want. In some cases they'll walk miles to get it.

In the UK the majority of children look on it as "something we're made to do by adults".

One of the main problems is when children are not "made to do it by adults". It is not just the education system at fault (although it is broken) but the family unit and the sense of personal responsibility that used to be instilled through a strong parental figure(s).

There are currently no real consequences for children to not try hard. OK, they may not get the top jobs but they know they will be supported ceertainly through their late teens and early twenties if not longer by the state and third sector organisations.

I saw a really good cartoon recently (not just Family Guy) where there were two frames side by side. One the left showed a 1950's mother & father marching into a child's bedroom to asking "what is the meaning of this test mark?" (a low mark). One the right, the frame showed the same parents in 2012 marching to the school and remonstrating with the teacher rather than darling little Johnny about the same mark.

Sums it up really....it's not our fault, it must be the state.

paddyrg

What a load of balls we see here sometimes. We are SO SO LUCKY to have the education system we have. By all means, opt out, go private if you want, but we are spoiled.

I have spent a heap of time in places like Nepal - the kids there have to pay for school and are DESPERATE to get an education that our kids whine about having for free. It makes me so sad to see the imbalance and ingratitude.

Plan's current campaign vid is worth a watch (40 seconds long http://youtu.be/tBTeI6ftYhM)