Bit of advice please

Smamfer

Ill keep this nice and simple but any bits of advice would be welcomed thanks

Me _ full time mother of 1 girl 13
Csa awarded me ........£2.50 a fortnight for past 6 months as ex was on benefits

Ex has my daughter 13 , another daughter by another mum aged ,8 and now another son by another woman :eek: aged 8 months,
The last mother has about 100 kids lol.... no urm about 5 kids, 1 older 19 moved out, 1 18 still living at home, 1 15 lives at home 1 12 who has moved to her dads and the baby.

They do live together in a council house and my daughter goes there about 3 times a year, so def comes under the 52 nights a yr thing.

My money stopped recently because he got a job which was temp but has now become permanent but i am still not receiving any money,

What im wondering is,, because he has come off benefits will the CSA be automatically told and sort payments out..( i laugh as i put this) or should i inform them?

I have spent months and months over the past yrs trying to prove to them where he lives that he is working etc etc etc and he has arrears but they dont seem to rush or ever get back to me


Thanks in advance x

kevin137

My understanding is if he FAILED TO NOTIFY them, when they do eventually find out it will be backdated to when he started, as it is a legal obligation to tell them of ANY change that results in an income change of more than 10%.

How they will work it out is another matter, it can get a little confusing with more kids involved, and also depends on when the case was originally opened.

Personally, i would ring them up and tell them, and then leave it in there more than capable hands (i use that term lightly) and sit back and wait years to get anything if they follow how they normally work... In the meantime, keep a record of all calls, and try to write and send by registered post if you have to have correspondence with them, and do it on a regular basis, and if you get nowhere after a period of time, say 3-4 months, then write and complain copying in your MP, they have to chase on you behalf and will get answers, but only do that after you have tried yourself, they are busy people after all...

Wish you luck, and hope you eventually get something from your ex...!

Blob

Yes you should tell them of this change, and he should have told them of the new job. If the job changes in the same employer he might now under CSA 2/3 may be obliged to inform them of big increases. You should check though.

Fission

kevin137 wrote: »

My understanding is if he FAILED TO NOTIFY them, when they do eventually find out it will be backdated to when he started, as it is a legal obligation to tell them of ANY change that results in an income change of more than 10%.

That isn't good advice and it would not be a good idea for the OP to rely on it or get their hopes up as a result of it.

Let me put it more strongly: it's 100% inaccurate. There is no such "legal obligation" in force, and the OP should make their own report of the changed income if they want it taken into account.

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PreludeForTimeFeelers

When an NRP goes off-benefit, it creates an effective date that will be used for the next assessment (ie, him working), however it can't hurt to give them a ring yourself and pass on any info that you know about what he is doing now.

iluvfreebies

i would advise that you advise of any information you are aware of as to what he is doing now - it will help for any new assessment to be completed more timely - as otherwise if your ex partner hasnt advised of his new employment trace proceddures can take a long time for a new employer to be found.

kevin137

Fission wrote: »

That isn't good advice and it would not be a good idea for the OP to rely on it or get their hopes up as a result of it.

Let me put it more strongly: it's 100% inaccurate. There is no such "legal obligation" in force, and the OP should make their own report of the changed income if they want it taken into account.

F

Is it not, why does all there paperwork say that if you fail to notify of changes that you could or will be prosecuted....? And ALL NRP's know that a change cannot take place in assessment unless it is more than 10% and that it is YOU that has to notify them, or they crucify you for arrears...!

On that basis, coming from benefit to working, even a at a temp job would amount to a change, and should be notified, and if you read my post you will notice i said to call them anyway... :rotfl:

Smamfer

Thanks all, didn't mean to cause controversy

I will call them, after all he has not actually paid anything for 12 years and only paid the £2.50 as he was on benefits, he chooses to make babies and leave after a while and now support a family with 5/6 other kids and end up with big tele's i somehow feel im the fool here struggling with two jobs etc,. but i know im not different to many other parents out there men and women being stung by the CSA.

He has been working for a month and had all the time to let them know but decided not to so its not as if i have jumped in the minute he found somethix

thanks for your advice xc

PreludeForTimeFeelers

kevin137 wrote: »

Is it not, why does all there paperwork say that if you fail to notify of changes that you could or will be prosecuted....? And ALL NRP's know that a change cannot take place in assessment unless it is more than 10% and that it is YOU that has to notify them, or they crucify you for arrears...!

Tolerance level on CS2 is 5%, not 10% - really you should also inform them of changes less than this amount too, for example if your wage drops by 4% now, and then another 2% in two months then the cumulative decrease will have breached the tolerance level.

kevin137

PreludeForTimeFeelers wrote: »

Tolerance level on CS2 is 5%, not 10% - really you should also inform them of changes less than this amount too, for example if your wage drops by 4% now, and then another 2% in two months then the cumulative decrease will have breached the tolerance level.

My bad... I always thought it was 10% as that is what they always told me, but then my memory is getting really really bad... Haha

My son has just been over to see me from the 27th December, and was due to fly home today, for party with his friends, and i managed to book the return flight for the 31st Jan...!!! His face dropped so bad when we found out last night... Expensive flight for me to get him home on BA...!

But he tells me i am a great dad for making sure he didn't miss his party, even if it did cost me another £300 to get him home today...

Smamfer

Sorry for delay meant to say thanks beforehand

I called the csa gave his name address place of work when he started etc, they told me they would pass it over to another team and im to call them back in two weeks!!!