I'm so angry!!!

bluey9

Snooze_Control wrote:

Sorry but that is still a load of crock. It doesn't matter how you dress it up you're still screaming "I'M DESPERATE FOR FEEDBACK!!!!!!!!" and it's so pathetic. Why does it bother you so much? :rolleyes:

SC

Because like many aspects of the business of buying and selling, reputation is important and feedback = reputation.

gabbit

razorbladekisses wrote:

I don't agree with contacting buyers asking them to leave feedback. As others have said it is optional. However, I think that the kind of reply you received from the buyer was totally uncalled for. I know it's upsetting but try not to take it to heart.

completely agreee!!!!

dbonbon

spinning_hamster_wheel wrote:

hugs! Take note from the fact that he's probably a fat, balding ebay fiend in his fifties who still lives with his mum who is sad enough to gloat over the fact that he is witholding feedback to you. Its his problem if he takes it so bloody seriously, its just meant to be a bit of fun and were ALL adults here!

That's uncalled for I'm only in my late forties. Mummy says that my toupee makes me her handsome wiccle boy.

codger

bluey9 wrote:

codger, I agree in some respects. But leaving a neg for not corresponding very well is a complete no no (although offensive, rude e-mails are another thing entirely). Feedback should be confined to the quality of the goods and how quickly they were received or paid for, it should be a statement of fact with no room for personal feelings on how friendly the exchanges were.

Sorry bluey, let's agree to differ, because I can't accept that confining feedback to the quality of the goods / speed of despatch / payment can accurately reflect a transaction in its totality.

What happens if you receive an item in one piece that's been wrapped in a plastic bin bag and only survived transit thanks to some careful handling by Royal Mail en route? (That's happened to be not once, but twice.)

Do you just leave FB about the item and speed of despatch? Omitting a fairly important fact of relevance to other prospective buyers on that seller's listings is hardly fair -- they may not be as lucky in getting their stuff intact. (And no, communicating with such sellers is a waste of time: anyone stupid enough to wrap stuff up in a dustbin bag is too stupid to reason with. Better to mention 'lousy packing' in the FB, because that's the only way they're going to get the message.)

As to an eBayer's friendliness (or otherwise) I think that's relevant too: I'd no more wish to deal with a terse, abrupt shopkeeper in the High Street than I would with a terse, abrupt eBay seller. So why have one standard for the real world but another for the virtual?

FB wouldn't be a neg or a neut for such a seller, but it would fairly reflect the transaction, i.e., "item received as described, thanks".

Which is some way from:

GREAT ITEM/GREAT SERVICE FROM ONE OF eBAY’S FRIENDLIEST SELLERS. 100% RECOMMEND!

susplum

codger wrote:

Not wishing to stir an argument, because here on MSE we don't have 'em, only civilised agreements to differ, but I think Snooze has been suffering from the same syndrome that's claimed so many of the rest of us.

It's called Feedback Fatigue,

To be fair though no-one has to read or answer these posts, so if it grates on your nerves to see yet another FB thread ignore it and move on. Being critical and demeaning is not necessary regardless of your POV.

bluey9

codger wrote:

Sorry bluey, let's agree to differ, because I can't accept that confining feedback to the quality of the goods / speed of despatch / payment can accurately reflect a transaction in its totality.

What happens if you receive an item in one piece that's been wrapped in a plastic bin bag and only survived transit thanks to some careful handling by Royal Mail en route? (That's happened to be not once, but twice.)

Do you just leave FB about the item and speed of despatch? Omitting a fairly important fact of relevance to other prospective buyers on that seller's listings is hardly fair -- they may not be as lucky in getting their stuff intact. (And no, communicating with such sellers is a waste of time: anyone stupid enough to wrap stuff up in a dustbin bag is too stupid to reason with. Better to mention 'lousy packing' in the FB, because that's the only way they're going to get the message.)

As to an eBayer's friendliness (or otherwise) I think that's relevant too: I'd no more wish to deal with a terse, abrupt shopkeeper in the High Street than I would with a terse, abrupt eBay seller. So why have one standard for the real world but another for the virtual?

FB wouldn't be a neg or a neut for such a seller, but it would fairly reflect the transaction, i.e., "item received as described, thanks".

Which is some way from:

GREAT ITEM/GREAT SERVICE FROM ONE OF eBAY’S FRIENDLIEST SELLERS. 100% RECOMMEND!

Agreed. The packing etc is very important. Terse comms can and should be met with a terse FB.

Wow, after the way I got flamed on the Tesco thread for having an opinion it's nice to have a sensible, pleasant exchange of views.

codger

bluey9 wrote:

Wow, after the way I got flamed on the Tesco thread for having an opinion it's nice to have a sensible, pleasant exchange of views.

Well that's the problem, bluey. Dealing with people who shop at Tesco's.

Everyone here is a Fortnum & Mason's sort of person, really.

:beer:

TornadoTom

bluey9 wrote:

People who take the hump when people ask them to leave feedback are just being petty and a wee bit bitter. People's reputation and existance as buyers and sellers on Ebay depend on feedback.
If someone politely reminds you you haven't left feedback and asks you to do so it's .hardly the end of the world. A lot of people who are new to Ebay are keen to get some postitve feedback and so increase other users confidence in dealing with them.
Actually sitting down at your keyboard to reply with a "No I won't leave you feedback" would expend the same energy as "Quick payer, many thanks!". So why get bent out of shape and be rude towards someone. The other thing about ebay is that what goes around comes around. The rude ones will get their comeuppance.
One thing you could do is wait the til the three month period for leaving feedback is almost expired and then leave them a suitable feedback on the final day. A neutral with "Good transaction, but doesn't leave feedback" would get them riled if they had been bitter enough to send you a rude e-mailin the first instance. This would bug them because, hopefully, they wouldn't notice and would be out of time for getting you back.

eerrr...pot.... kettle.... black ......spring to mind
Tom

Snooze_Control

TornadoTom wrote:

eerrr...pot.... kettle.... black ......spring to mind
Tom

:rotfl:

Owned!

SC

bluey9

TornadoTom wrote:

eerrr...pot.... kettle.... black ......spring to mind
Tom

Not really, Tom. But an eye for an eye is one approach people could choose to take. If someone is rude to you then I'd say you were within your rights to return the favour.

Calling people pathetic just because they would like some feedback is a bit strong. And like I said, maybe just a wee bit bitter.

When I have less then satisfactory dealings with people on ebay I tend to let it slip as it only takes a few negs and your reutation could suffer. I know I look at sellers feedback if I'm buying something of high value.
Cheers
Bluey


oh, and SC

"Owned!"

Think that tells us all we need to know.