training / copyright issue

Sam83

If I pay for a training course, then find that all the materials in that course is copyrighted to another company, so the company I bought from is selling something that is nor theirs to sell - where does that leave me? Can I ask for a full refund? (over £3,000 - and it was not a learn at home course, it was mainly residential)

Any advice is gratefully received

hcb42

I wouldnt have thought the arrangement to deliver the training between the two companies would affect your contract with the company you bought from.

LittleVoice

Sam83 wrote: »

If I pay for a training course, then find that all the materials in that course is copyrighted to another company, so the company I bought from is selling something that is nor theirs to sell - where does that leave me? Can I ask for a full refund? (over £3,000 - and it was not a learn at home course, it was mainly residential)

Any advice is gratefully received

Copyright owners can licence others to use their copyright material.

Not all of the fee you paid was for printed or computer material.

Sambucus_Nigra

They may be paying for the rights to use those materials though.

Sam83

The company owning the copyright does not give the training company permission to use its material and legal action is being sought.

Because the company I trained with are using material which is not their own means that my qualification is invalid, it is essentially worthless meaning I can't get the type of work promised by the training company.

In short, I paid £3,000+ for something which is essentially useless.

The company owning the copyright, and have morals(!) have offered to train me, but I can't afford it now after paying £3K+ to a rogue company.

Hopefully that makes a little bit more sense.

Poppy9

Wouldn't you have to sue the company that trained you to get your money back?

If they are a dodgy company I wouldn't be surprised if they wind the business up so you'll have no one to sue

emsywoo123

What is the qualification? Is there an exam? Can you speak to the examination board and see? I don't really understand why the qualification is not valid?

anamenottaken

Sam83 wrote: »

The company owning the copyright does not give the training company permission to use its material and legal action is being sought.

Because the company I trained with are using material which is not their own means that my qualification is invalid, it is essentially worthless meaning I can't get the type of work promised by the training company.

In short, I paid £3,000+ for something which is essentially useless.

The company owning the copyright, and have morals(!) have offered to train me, but I can't afford it now after paying £3K+ to a rogue company.

Hopefully that makes a little bit more sense.

What is the qualification?

Have you already undergone assessment for it?

Is it actually nationally recognised as independent or was it specific to the training provider.

What sort of "promise" did you have from the training company?

emsywoo123

anamenottaken wrote: »

What is the qualification?

Have you already undergone assessment for it?

Is it actually nationally recognised as independent or was it specific to the training provider.

What sort of "promise" did you have from the training company?

Yes, these ^^^ questions

Uncertain

Sam83 wrote: »

The company owning the copyright does not give the training company permission to use its material and legal action is being sought.

OK, but that is their problem.

Sam83 wrote: »

Because the company I trained with are using material which is not their own means that my qualification is invalid

I'm at a total loss to see how.

Whilst it could potentially discredit the training company to some extent I don't see how it affects the validity or otherwise of a particular qualification.

Your GCSEs would still be valid even if the school had stolen the text books and the classroom desks!

DVardysShadow

Sam83 wrote: »

The company owning the copyright does not give the training company permission to use its material and legal action is being sought.

Because the company I trained with are using material which is not their own means that my qualification is invalid, it is essentially worthless meaning I can't get the type of work promised by the training company.

In short, I paid £3,000+ for something which is essentially useless.

The company owning the copyright, and have morals(!) have offered to train me, but I can't afford it now after paying £3K+ to a rogue company.

Hopefully that makes a little bit more sense.

The qualification you have is assessed on what is in your head. The fact that it is in your head because you read it from material which was in breach of copyright is a problem to be sorted out between the copyright owner and your course provider and is not you problem.

Unless you can provide some more background as to why it is your problem.