Agency Workers Regulations - Training

joeypesci

No longer relevant

scheming_gypsy

you've not been there 12 weeks.. The 12 weeks starts from October 1st.

As your contract will be ending it's unlikely you'd get the training if you had been there for 12 weeks unless you want the usual terms and conditions that are imposed. If you leave within 2 years you have to pay it back.

joeypesci

What I mean is, when the training comes in, I'll have been their 12 weeks.

scheming_gypsy

right, but the training is no doubt being paid for on a per person basis. If you were to get the training with them and then you left within two years, you'd be expected to pay back the training fees like a full time employee would.


Look on the bright side though, you don't have to sit in on a training sesson

joeypesci

Yes but being an IT engineer I want to sit in on a training sessions. It's Windows 7 training, with Microsoft vouchers they were given. And as they say, if ever offered training in a job, take it.

scheming_gypsy

joeypesci wrote: »

Yes but being an IT engineer I want to sit in on a training sessions.

lol... being an IT engineer is the reason I don't want to sit in on them. I've done far too many and never actually learnt anything from them, I've just learnt it all on the job.

SarEl

joeypesci wrote: »

Yes but being an IT engineer I want to sit in on a training sessions. It's Windows 7 training, with Microsoft vouchers they were given. And as they say, if ever offered training in a job, take it.

You weren't offered the training though were you? The regulations relate to basic conditions of employment. This training is training staff for the employers benefit - not the staffs benefit. The employer has clearly stated an objectuive justification for this - it is work related and you won't need it because you won't be there when the roll-out occurs.

heretolearn_2

No employee, permanent or agency, has the right to demand training just because other people are being given it. You really can't see that you are being ridiculous? You don't need the training = you don't get it, no matter what your employment status, and your employer is doing nothing morally, ethically or legally wrong.

joeypesci

Despite the AWR stating if training is being offered then it should be offered to temps as well if they've been their 12 weeks? And I'll say again, the big roll out is after my contract ends but they currently already have a few Windows 7 machines that I support. I know on the job training is better that this style of training but you know what employees are like, seem to think certificates mean you know it all. So when looking at CVs are more likely to choose the person with experience and Microsoft certificates than just the person with experience.

heretolearn_2

1) Where does it mention access to unnecessary training in the AWR?

Regulation 6
After an agency worker completes a 12 week qualifying period with the same
hirer, in the same role, they will be entitled to have the same basic terms and
conditions of employment as if they had been employed directly by the hirer.
They are;
• key elements of pay
• duration of working time e.g. if working is limited to a maximum of 48
hours a week
• night work
• rest periods
• rest breaks
• annual leave
In addition, pregnant agency workers who have completed the 12
week qualifying period, will be entitled to paid time off for ante natal
appointments

planning303

Yeah as has already been stated the AWR isn't about getting you training that you full time (comparative) workers recieve.