Twice As Many Single Women Buy Property Than Single Men

Kennyboy66

ninky wrote: »

A complete split in terms of parental leave options would be a good start at levelling the playing field however. I don't want to have kids but if I did it would make sense (financially) for my OH to have the long parental leave. If employers knew they might have to fork out for parental leave for men and women it would also reduce some of the unspoken sexism that you just know goes into the decision making for well-paid permanent positions.

I thought the position for parental leave (as opposed to maternity leave) is exactly the same for men as it is for women.

jfh7gwa

I suspect ninky is probably talking more about the scandinavian attitude... isn't it the case that they can split their year off? so maternity leave is taken as much as is medically needed by the mum.. but anything beyond that, the few months off - they share it with their partner (or at least have the right to)?

I once worked with a guy from sweden and i remember he was really, really shocked at how backwards the UK system was in this regard, quite interesting to get a different perspective on things (shame i can't remember too many details of his first hand experience though).

reweird

Percy1983 wrote: »

Good job I found a loverly women-baby to buy a house with! (ps I am exactly 1 month older than her).

As much as you never understand I will try to explain this, to most young people there is 2 clear paths:

1, Stay at home, sort career, up income, save buy.
2, Rent, sort career, up income, find it impossible to save, never buy.

So as with many others I haven't stayed at home because I can't let go of the apron, but because its better than paying a landlords mortgage.

Either way we will be in our first home soon enough and then I will have the title of 'real man' (despite nothing in my personality changing), but I can rest assured in life that I may have gained the 'real man' title later in life but I will be a much better example of it than you reweird.

Good job you did because I will tell you out in the real World real women look for a mate who is a real man, you know, one with balls who knows how to handle and support himself and others independently without the reliance of mummy. It's priceless to imagine a man-baby courting his woman counterpart both touching 30 and living under there parents roof and rules. No doubt you found her on the Internet too.

sammyjammy

reweird wrote: »

Good job you did because I will tell you out in the real World real women look for a mate who is a real man, you know, one with balls who knows how to handle and support himself and others independently without the reliance of mummy. It's priceless to imagine a man-baby courting his woman counterpart both touching 30 and living under there parents roof and rules. No doubt you found her on the Internet too.

That's why we bought our houses and concentrated on our jobs, hobbies, friends - because we can't find one of these thy are either at home with parents or sitting in their bachelor pad playing on their XBox :rotfl:

suki1001

Going4TheDream wrote: »

The whole point of the article - if you read it - is that very many women are turning their back on both relationships and choosing not to have children, but they are still going about life, buying homes, having good careers, social live's and hobby's etc. The type of women who I imagine wouldnt look twice at the type of man you describe!

Women who do the same job function as a man are paid the same salary/wage now. It is against the law to discriminate. I don't disagree with what you say in principal I have seen many friends go the way you describe.... but they choose that, no one makes them!

I also know of two men who have bought children up from a young age as single parents, and know of a couple of friends whose husbands actually stayed at home and raised the kids whilst the woman worked.

Much of what we have historically accepted is changing and the typical stereotypes are changing too, albeit slowly in some cases

Many women face challenges in breaking through to the upper echelons of business in many industries because woman are still 'discriminated against' because they may ' go off and have children' just because they are of a certain age, often men will be chosen over women on those grounds but of course it would never be told so, as that is also illegal.

I have always maintained my own place buying my 1st house 3 weeks before my 19th birthday, but have lived with a guy or two, and you learn a thing or two along the way

Its amazing how quickly guys learn to operate the washing machine or iron when they run out of clothes and the clothes fairy doesn't appear to have put them all away in his wardrobe. Or how the cupboards and freezer don't fill themselves up magically when he uses the last of something.

(As for the kids thing my girls are 29 and 26, both left home and bought their own places)

I think you have to see, irrelevant of these girls views, and lets face it, they are very few in numbers. They are in the minority. I believe most women with children, no matter how much you share, have the bigger proportion of housework etc, well it's a fact.

We can act like we're all equal, but actually, it would be pretty much nigh impossible to have total equality, unless you share everything exactly, work the same hours etc. Yes my husband can work a washing machine too. However, my point maybe a little strongly put, is that while some women are opting to be independant, that men are not stupid and don't need to leave home when rightly or wrongly, they can have everything done for them. Waiting a bit longer to find someone else who'll mother them has maybe added another 10 years onto when they do this.

I come from a strong line of career women. My great grandmother was a teacher (one of the first women to go to teaching college), while my great grandfather worked in a less well paid job in the ship yards, but equally back there there were many women who stayed permanently single and never had children, I met loads of them in nursing homes, some chose to be on their own, others through circumstance. I myself am a higher earner than my husband.

While as women we have greater opportunities, I do think many women have more stresses, the housework as well as the career and I know many wives, who do do more work. Their husbands might do more around the house, but they are still the one who do more.

suki1001

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Not with you there. OH and I share household and childcare responsibilities equally. We both work full-time, we both do home stuff together.

You might not agree with me, but for most women statistically they do more around the house.

reweird

Well show us the statistics then. For the record my wife probably does more around the house, but then she wants too. It makes her happy busy tending to be nest.

MrRee_2

suki1001 wrote: »

You might not agree with me, but for most women statistically they do more around the house.

That's just how it should be, surely?

Jimmy_31

MrRee wrote: »

Men aren't men anymore ..... not like the old days ...... today, as above, they are Man Babies hanging onto Mummies apron strings even at advanced ages like 25!!!

In my day you left home at 15 and worked .... like I said, men were men ......

I started work at eleven years old, managed to fit it in around going to school.

Mock me boy.

Jimmy_31

reweird wrote: »

Good job you did because I will tell you out in the real World real women look for a mate who is a real man, you know, one with balls who knows how to handle and support himself and others independently without the reliance of mummy. It's priceless to imagine a man-baby courting his woman counterpart both touching 30 and living under there parents roof and rules. No doubt you found her on the Internet too.

You just called yourself a wank3r:)