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I have created a an e-petition to promote extra employment and work in the economy, have a look, have a think, if you like it, sign it and spread it.

it can be found by typing time and a half into the search


Time and a half overtime compensation pay for more than 40 hours worked a week

Responsible department: Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
To pass a law that states that workers receive compensation of time and a half overtime pay for more than 40 hours work a week. The time and a half would start from the fortieth hour. The United States of America has had successful similar law for over 50 years, and they are the most prosperous nation in the world. A labour law like this would provide an incentive for people to take overtime, this would add to GDP, and could boost disposable income and spending. If a workplace had to keep offering overtime on a regular basis, then it would provide an incentive for them to create new jobs, and avoid the penalty, there is an element of choice in this. This law would also help tackle the scourge of unpaid overtime, by creating a legal recourse.
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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    I have created a an e-petition to promote extra employment and work in the economy, have a look, have a think, if you like it, sign it and spread it.

    it can be found by typing time and a half into the search


    Time and a half overtime compensation pay for more than 40 hours worked a week

    Responsible department: Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
    To pass a law that states that workers receive compensation of time and a half overtime pay for more than 40 hours work a week. The time and a half would start from the fortieth hour. The United States of America has had successful similar law for over 50 years, and they are the most prosperous nation in the world. A labour law like this would provide an incentive for people to take overtime, this would add to GDP, and could boost disposable income and spending. If a workplace had to keep offering overtime on a regular basis, then it would provide an incentive for them to create new jobs, and avoid the penalty, there is an element of choice in this. This law would also help tackle the scourge of unpaid overtime, by creating a legal recourse.

    That should send a few more jobs overseas.
  • redcard
    redcard Posts: 1,563 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Wonder if you'd be willing to pay an extra 50% when you shop after 5.30pm, 50% more when you get a bus at the weekend, 50% more when you get your hair cut on a Saturday morning, 50% more to have a pub lunch.

    Thought not.
    Hope over Fear. #VoteYes
  • So what you're saying is that if companies were forced to pay time and a half for overtime; people would do the overtime and increase their salary. That in turn would tell employers that they can avoid this by employing more staff; the new staff would then cost them more as they'd have to pay employers NI, holiday pay and sick pay etc. They'd also have to create enough work (40 hours a week) to justify having the additional member of staff.
    The existing staff would then only do their standard hours and lose out on pay (standard rate or time and a half) because there's no overtime.

    When this system is in place we could be like America and risking bankruptcy?


    Great plan, how much time did you put into thinking about it? or do you just want your boss to pay you time and a half?
  • meer53
    meer53 Posts: 10,217 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Don't some employers pay this anyway ? I can't do overtime because of childcare so don't really know what rates are paid.
  • ILW wrote: »
    That should send a few more jobs overseas.
    why would that happen? it's more likely that instead of having 2 people work 60 hours, you are going to recruit a 3rd person, and this is not something that is new and experimental but is something that was signed into law in the US in 1938(fair labor standards act). Now where is the evidence that it has impeded US growth in the last 60 years? I think it will encourage growth, not depress it. It will encourage people to work extra hours they would have in the past turned down.
  • redcard wrote: »
    Wonder if you'd be willing to pay an extra 50% when you shop after 5.30pm, 50% more when you get a bus at the weekend, 50% more when you get your hair cut on a Saturday morning, 50% more to have a pub lunch.

    Thought not.

    most supermarkets have time and a half rate for working sundays, do you pay 50% more for your groceries then?
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    why would that happen? it's more likely that instead of having 2 people work 60 hours, you are going to recruit a 3rd person, and this is not something that is new and experimental but is something that was signed into law in the US in 1938(fair labor standards act). Now where is the evidence that it has impeded US growth in the last 60 years? I think it will encourage growth, not depress it. It will encourage people to work extra hours they would have in the past turned down.

    All that will happen is that many jobs will go to low or zero hours contracts and you will find the current 40 hour jobs split between two or three people to save anyone going over the 40 hours.

    If you think it has worked in the USA, try looking at places like Detroit.
  • cbrown372
    cbrown372 Posts: 1,513 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    meer53 wrote: »
    Don't some employers pay this anyway ? I can't do overtime because of childcare so don't really know what rates are paid.

    Time and a half for overtime over 35 hours and double time for Sat/Sun working for my youngster.
    Its not that we have more patience as we grow older, its just that we're too tired to care about all the pointless drama ;)
  • redcard
    redcard Posts: 1,563 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    most supermarkets have time and a half rate for working sundays, do you pay 50% more for your groceries then?

    Nope, but the cost of groceries will go up even faster than they are doing already.
    Hope over Fear. #VoteYes
  • redcard
    redcard Posts: 1,563 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    edited 16 November 2011 at 6:30PM
    I have created a an e-petition to promote extra employment and work in the economy, have a look, have a think, if you like it, sign it and spread it.

    it can be found by typing time and a half into the search


    Time and a half overtime compensation pay for more than 40 hours worked a week

    Responsible department: Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
    To pass a law that states that workers receive compensation of time and a half overtime pay for more than 40 hours work a week. The time and a half would start from the fortieth hour. The United States of America has had successful similar law for over 50 years, and they are the most prosperous nation in the world. A labour law like this would provide an incentive for people to take overtime, this would add to GDP, and could boost disposable income and spending. If a workplace had to keep offering overtime on a regular basis, then it would provide an incentive for them to create new jobs, and avoid the penalty, there is an element of choice in this. This law would also help tackle the scourge of unpaid overtime, by creating a legal recourse.

    This is a bit of a lie. They're 10th. And they're 18th when you consider just the state of their economy.

    Now if Norway, Denmark, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, Canada, Finland, Switzerland and the Netherlands also have this time-and-a-half law, then you've got me convinced there is some kind of correlation between this law and GDP.

    But, alas, there's not.
    Hope over Fear. #VoteYes
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