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Owning a home now 17% cheaper than renting....rental sector hits crisis point

Graham_Devon
Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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edited 14 November 2011 at 6:40PM in Debate House Prices & the Economy
That is....if you owned your home before the credit crunch.

Just wanted to get that point in as the 17% is a crude, though somewhat useful comparison.
In terms of monthly costs, owning a home is now typically 17% cheaper than renting, claims the Halifax. This echoes research published last month by property company LSL Property Services, which owns lettings chains Your Move and Reeds Rains. It reported that average rents have hit a record high of £718 a month, and have for the first time risen in all regions of England and Wales.
And while this may be celebrated by a select few on this forum, the downsides are getting worse.
Rising costs are putting pressure on household budgets as never before, with the homeless charity Shelter recently reporting that families are being priced out of rental properties in more than half of local authorities in England.
So is it good, or is it bad?

Well Ken Livingstone <spit> has suggested it's bad for tenants, and gives rogue landlords little incentive to improve their practices. Such is the situation in London, that he has commisioned a website where you can shop a stupid, greedy landlord.

But LSL property services says (lo and behold) rising prices are actually good for renters. (Where have we heard this before!). Why good? Well, it's painful for renters now, but if prices keep increasing, more speculative BTL investors will jump in and buy up more houses, meaning more supply and stable prices...not reducing, just stable, so it's great for renters (like denial alley).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/nov/11/rental-market-reaches-crisis-point
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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    maybe build more houses

    create jobs now

    helps people who want to buy

    helps people who want to rent
    EU tariff on agricultual product 12.2%
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  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    Why would you <spit> after the name Ken Livingstone ? :eek:
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Renters are the meat in the squeezed sandwich now. This callous and inhumane housing regime will squeeze every last drop into the already overflowing cup of the boomer and the btl.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Renters are the meat in the squeezed sandwich now. This callous and inhumane housing regime will squeeze every last drop into the already overflowing cup of the boomer and the btl.


    surely you meant to include 'toasted' before 'sandwich'
    EU tariff on agricultual product 12.2%
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    EU Clinical Trials Directive stops medical advances
  • Owning a home now 17% cheaper than renting....rental sector hits crisis point

    It shouldn't be such a surprise that buying is cheaper than renting.
    This should always be the case.

    The interesting part is that this looks like that it's not just mortgage interest that's cheaper than renting, but it's mortgage repayments and insurance.

    Certainly a clear indicator that it's better to be an owner than a renter.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    Renting sucks but most people who rent cant do anything about it.
  • purch wrote: »
    Why would you <spit> after the name Ken Livingstone ? :eek:


    Filthy commie scumbag.
  • Pimperne1
    Pimperne1 Posts: 2,177 Forumite
    It shouldn't be such a surprise that buying is cheaper than renting.
    This should always be the case.

    The interesting part is that this looks like that it's not just mortgage interest that's cheaper than renting, but it's mortgage repayments and insurance.

    Certainly a clear indicator that it's better to be an owner than a renter.

    It defies logic that anyone would think that it would be better to rent than own. It would certainly be closer if you bought just before one of the 17 year or so corrections but even then its got to be much better to own in the longer term.
  • Batchy
    Batchy Posts: 1,632 Forumite
    Shock... Horror... 17% falls... Lol
    Plan
    1) Get most competitive Lifetime Mortgage (Done)
    2) Make healthy savings, spend wisely (Doing)
    3) Ensure healthy pension fund - (Doing)
    4) Ensure house is nice, suitable, safe, and located - (Done)
    5) Keep everyone happy, healthy and entertained (Done, Doing, Going to do)
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    That is....if you owned your home before the credit crunch.

    Just wanted to get that point in as the 17% is a crude, though somewhat useful comparison.

    It's cheaper to buy than to rent end of. The credit crunch didn't and hasn't changed this simple fact.

    The OP talks about monthly costs. Once you start looking at lifetime costs it couldn't be more obvious.

    If predictions of small increases in nominal house prices and small decreases in real house prices are correct it could be good news..

    - current homeowners see house prices 'increase' and so don't feel poorer
    - potential homeowners have time to save without the fear of house prices running away
    - rental providers get a yield on their investments plus a nominal increase in property value
    - renters might see some stabilisation in rents

    The losers will be those waiting for the crash and those who won't/ can't save a deposit as the same old problem remains - there isn't enough housing being built so the longer term pressure has to be upwards.
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