Rant

Muscle750

I have worked for same company for 23 years and of late i feel i am getting victimised for no reason , basically the jobs we do have time issued on them and if we book over 35 hours we get bonus (£8 per hour) on top of our contracted 40 hours. However we now have a new manager who has been there a long time doing a different role yet unbelievably was promoted to GM . Anyway since this so called manager has been in charge they have always had their (inner circle) of employees mainly two of them and of late they have been getting all the jobs with decent hours on. whilst everyone else struggles plus it doesnt help when one of them is the bro in law of the workshop controller who dishes the work out. A few months back i was under paid by £300 due to the GM deciding that althou they knew i worked some overtime as it was end of month the hours on the job wasnt enough to cover the hours attended by wait for it 3 hours !!!
This week one of the inner circle told me theyve had their OT guranteed because they got a few "nasty repairs" to do with little hours.and that the GM had said they could do the OT bearing in mind that they work every night in the workshop on their own which is illegal anyway doin 4 hours ot and all day saturdays every week.
What has really peed me off is that ive got quite abit of work to do and yet as i was short of work on monday i was asked to work today which was fine then 5 mins later "oh you stood round doin nothing monday so dont bother because you wont get paid" even thou i could just about cover my hours in total. Meanwhile the two golden boys will be in sorting throu the cream jobs for next week.
I emailed the area manager manager a few weeks back when i was under paid and didnt even get a response and i was told by the workshop controller that he had read my email which was sent to the GM by the area manager and that and i quote "Really stirred it up" all i asked was for a meeting with him and the reasons why i hadnt been paid etc
I need to earn as much as possible due to a recent daughter getting marrried and another off to uni i really do feel victimised and unfairly treated the company is a national company with 70 plus branches
I am a member of the GMB
Whats even more of a PI55 take is when its end of the month they panic and rape every job in the place unfinished as completed just to make the figures look good so the GM etc gets their rake off please dont tell me to go and find something else i dont see why i should after 23 years of loyalty so this saturday morning im sat at home with work to do elsewhere while the golden boys are in even thou i know for a fact one of them hasnt covered their hours this week.

This week

paddyrg

Sorry to hear it, sounds miserable. Question is will things change? Sounds like they won't, in which case the 'why should you find another job after 23 yrs?' has the answer 'because you're not happy in this one, and it doesn't look like it's going to go back to how it used to be'.

I do wish you luck with it, but if it is really making you unhappy, it sounds like time to move on. 23 years is a decent length of service, but it doesn't sound like they value that, so find someone who will appreciate the loyalty?

DCFC79

Really does sound like you should find another job,

Muscle750

One thing i would go on to say as well is that two employees (not the golden two) last year earned in excess of wait for it £90k between the two of them and they are only on £10 per hour the rest was bonus and a little OT. Their particuliar role the times are way over the top and this is always the case and when they get another person working with them they make their life hell. Both are selling in excess of 150 hours a week and only been there 40 if that. they have no outlay in tooling as we do and the job is literally put in front of them. Time and time again issues are raised to the gross unfairness of this situation the management both higher and lower level are scared of upsetting them because for every hour they sell and are paid £8 in bonus the company make £35 to £40 per hour. Our argue ment has always been the times on each job should be split equally between each dept so everyone in effect gets a third but for fear of upsetting two employees who make more money in bonus in a week than i am on flat money nothing gets done and it doesnt look like it will ever change .
They even said for this years xmas party which im not going to if we want to take our partners its £40 and we have to pay a tenner for ourselves. so thats £50 before we start. I as well as someone else phoned up the venue and discovered that on that night its £25 per head so althou in a statement the company provides £30 per head for this it seems someone namely the manager is once again taking the preverbial.

getmore4less

Good rant, but it might be just me

I have no idea what you are on about or how you actualy get paid for what you do.

Muscle750

Im not goin to name the company althou i will say its in the Motor trade

inmypocketnottheirs

getmore4less wrote: »

Good rant, but it might be just me

I have no idea what you are on about or how you actualy get paid for what you do.

I was hoping for a translation.

mountainofdebt

I think the rant is something like this:

- worked for Company for 23 years

- has a new manager (who the OP) doesn't rate very highly (well not at all really)

- new manager favouring 2 members of staff for lucrative overtime which is naffing OP off

- also thinks that someone is ripping company off over cost of Christmas do

Solution (as I see it)

- put up with status quo and still get paid or

- leave for a new job

Likely outcome:

- OP is found out to be bad mouthing general manager, gets suspended for some transgression and then is sacked.

Gingernutty

Muscle750 wrote: »

I have worked for same company for 23 years

Trust me, that' counts for nothing in this day and age. Loyalty has no value.

Muscle750 wrote: »

and of late i feel i am getting victimised for no reason

If they've noticed you at all,

Muscle750 wrote: »

basically the jobs we do have time issued on them

I think I understand - Every task you perform has a specific amount of time allocated.

As with all such timed systems there are weird anomalies - some tasks don't take too long at all but have a lot of time allocated (say, a task which has half an hour allocated can take no more than fifteen minutes), while some tasks can turn into b*ggers which can take longer than the time allocated ( a task which has an hour allocated, can take three).

Muscle750 wrote: »

and if we book over 35 hours we get bonus (£8 per hour) on top of our contracted 40 hours.

So if you are allocated tasks which take you over a 35 hour working week, you're automatically put on a kind of overtime rate.

Muscle750 wrote: »

However we now have a new manager who has been there a long time doing a different role yet unbelievably was promoted to GM.

There may well be a good and valid reason why. you're not in charge of hiring and firing so you have to put up and shut up, I'm afraid.

Muscle750 wrote: »

Anyway since this so called manager has been in charge they have always had their (inner circle) of employees mainly two of them and of late they have been getting all the jobs with decent hours on.

Aha! He has favourites. Who he favours. Whether they're drinking buddies, went to school together or play in the same pub football team - it doesn't matter. There will always be the haves and have nots. You're one of the unfavoured.

As an aside - When I worked in a laboratory, there were two part time working mothers. They both wore the badge of martyrs, rubbing in the hard work they did and currying favour with the Team Leader who, wait for it, was also a part time working mother who 'felt their pain'.

I was on about £20,000 per annum and each one pulled in more money than me per month.

They came in extremely early together (before the proper 07:00 start) so when they left at 15:00 three days a week they each had three or four hours overtime under their belts BEFORE they started work on Saturdays.

They were adamant that because of their family commitments, they could only work on Saturdays. Being a hazardous environment, there was no lone working. Each one was the other's lab buddy.

At the time I had family commitments that meant I had to run errands on Saturdays but I was free on Sundays. But I had no lab buddy. So, either my family commitments suffered OR I worked Saturdays.

AND they started extremely early and left shortly after lunchtime (also claiming a full hours travel time each way even though it only took them half an hour to get to work) so if you started at 09:00, then you only got 3 or 4 hours in.

I was dependent on public transport whilst they had their own cars so getting in as early as they did was impossible.

These two had the overtime sewn up between them and were thus able to earn more than a full timer on a greater wage.

Muscle750 wrote: »

whilst everyone else struggles plus it doesnt help when one of them is the bro in law of the workshop controller who dishes the work out.

Yup. Nepotism. Stinks doesn't it?

Muscle750 wrote: »

A few months back i was under paid by £300 due to the GM deciding that althou they knew i worked some overtime as it was end of month the hours on the job wasnt enough to cover the hours attended by wait for it 3 hours !!!

That's not fair. IS there no one you can complain to? Are they accusing you of falsifying hours?

Muscle750 wrote: »

This week one of the inner circle told me theyve had their OT guranteed because they got a few "nasty repairs" to do with little hours.and that the GM had said they could do the OT bearing in mind that they work every night in the workshop on their own which is illegal anyway doin 4 hours ot and all day saturdays every week.

I take it safety is a priority and lone working is a no-no. Is H&S not taking any notice?

Muscle750 wrote: »

What has really peed me off is that ive got quite abit of work to do and yet as i was short of work on monday i was asked to work today which was fine then 5 mins later "oh you stood round doin nothing monday so dont bother because you wont get paid" even thou i could just about cover my hours in total.

Yup. Bummer. You don't get paid overtime until you have worked your full allocated hours during the week.

What I don't understand is - you were there ready to work if a rush job came in. Is there no standby rate?

Muscle750 wrote: »

Meanwhile the two golden boys will be in sorting throu the cream jobs for next week.

Ooooooooooh yeah. Back to the two part time working mothers. They cherry picked the 'best'/least worst jobs and had stats which made them look phenomenal, the rest of us looked like cr*p.

Muscle750 wrote: »

I emailed the area manager manager a few weeks back when i was under paid and didnt even get a response and i was told by the workshop controller that he had read my email which was sent to the GM by the area manager and that and i quote "Really stirred it up" all i asked was for a meeting with him and the reasons why i hadnt been paid etc

Which, if you weren't rude or abusive, wasn't wrong.

Muscle750 wrote: »

I need to earn as much as possible due to a recent daughter getting marrried and another off to uni

While I understand why you need the money, your home life and personal circumstances aren't of any real interest to your employers.

Muscle750 wrote: »

i really do feel victimised and unfairly treated

If they are singling you out for this treatment then it's victimization, if there are others outside the 'golden circle' with you, then it's not. Simply because something is unfair, doesn't mean it's illegal.

Muscle750 wrote: »

the company is a national company with 70 plus branches
I am a member of the GMB

Talk to them. Show them paperwork if you have any.

Muscle750 wrote: »

Whats even more of a PI55 take is when its end of the month they panic and rape every job in the place unfinished as completed just to make the figures look good so the GM etc gets their rake off

Okay, if I understand that correctly, there's an end of month reckoning which if all the scheduled jobs are completed, the GM gets a monthly bonus. You are incorrectly (or prematurely, or possibly, fraudulently) charging for unfinished work which then carries over into the next month.

Muscle750 wrote: »

please dont tell me to go and find something else

Something has to change. If not the job, then you really need to sit down and talk to the GMB union rep and/or HR

Muscle750 wrote: »

i dont see why i should after 23 years of loyalty

Mate, loyalty means nothing. If you've been there 23 years and that's the way they're treating you, they're proving to you what they think of you.

Muscle750 wrote: »

so this saturday morning im sat at home with work to do elsewhere while the golden boys are in even thou i know for a fact one of them hasnt covered their hours this week.

So what? They've clearly come up with way of dealing/dodging this issue.

You've got to talk to a union rep and even then, if your system works the way I think it does, then you haven't got a leg to stand on. The lack of contracted hours on your time/worksheets will be 'proof' that they're right.

You've got to bite the bullet and look at another job. Or, if there are 70 sites, how about transferring to another site?

Good luck, anyhow.

inmypocketnottheirs

mountainofdebt wrote: »

I think the rant is something like this:

- worked for Company for 23 years

- has a new manager (who the OP) doesn't rate very highly (well not at all really)

- new manager favouring 2 members of staff for lucrative overtime which is naffing OP off

- also thinks that someone is ripping company off over cost of Christmas do

Solution (as I see it)

- put up with status quo and still get paid or

- leave for a new job

Likely outcome:

- OP is found out to be bad mouthing general manager, gets suspended for some transgression and then is sacked.

Thanks for that. Now it makes sense.

And your likely outcome is very likely.