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eBay Refund Issue (not what you're thinking)

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  • Zandoni
    Zandoni Posts: 3,465 Forumite
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    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    A very good post, except for the last bit. The OP does not have the right to simply "dispose" of the goods. He has a statutory duty to take reasonable care of the goods, potentially for the next six years. If, after a reasonable time, the seller had not responded to his requests and he was to sell them, he must give adequate notice to the other party and keep the money to send onto them.

    If they are treated as unsolicited then the OP can keep the goods, here is a template of a letter to send.

    https://consumer-tools.direct.gov.uk/consumer-advice/template_letters/DSR_unsolicited/
  • techspec
    techspec Posts: 4,464 Forumite
    Zandoni wrote: »
    If they are treated as unsolicited then the OP can keep the goods, here is a template of a letter to send.

    https://consumer-tools.direct.gov.uk/consumer-advice/template_letters/DSR_unsolicited/

    Hardly unsolicited when the op ordered the item.
  • Flyboy152 wrote: »
    A very good post, except for the last bit. The OP does not have the right to simply "dispose" of the goods. He has a statutory duty to take reasonable care of the goods, potentially for the next six years. If, after a reasonable time, the seller had not responded to his requests and he was to sell them, he must give adequate notice to the other party and keep the money to send onto them.

    OK, my original advice was incorrect, but so is this.

    They must take care of the goods, but can get rid after following a set process - must write to the owners twice, three months apart. See "Selling uncollected or abandoned goods" under
    http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_world/consumer_affairs/keeping_lost_found_and_uncollected_goods.htm#keepinglostfoundandunprotectedgoods

    Remember, you can also charge storage fees for the item!
  • timbo58
    timbo58 Posts: 1,164 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    No they are not.
    quote your source please.

    items which are made especially to order for you and customised for that order are exempt from the regulations as they cannot be resold AFAIAA.
    Unless specifically stated all posts by me are my own considered opinion.
    If you don't like my opinion feel free to respond with your own.
  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    No they are not.

    If you receive a custom made item, ordered by phone or online, you are not entitled to return it within 7 days for a refund unlike most off the shelf items (there are some exclusions).
    Warning: This forum may contain nuts.
  • unholyangel
    unholyangel Posts: 16,866 Forumite
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    Custom items are exempt from the unconditional right to cancel (section 10) but are not exempt from the DSR's themselves. Hence why they are listed under "exceptions to the right to cancel" (section 13) and not "excepted contracts" (section 5).

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2000/2334/contents/made

    Also worth noting that choosing from preset options/stock options is not classed as customised. It has to be clearly "clearly personalised"
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    timbo58 wrote: »
    quote your source please.

    items which are made especially to order for you and customised for that order are exempt from the regulations as they cannot be resold AFAIAA.

    :wall: :wall: :wall:
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • fred7777
    fred7777 Posts: 677 Forumite
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    edited 23 November 2011 at 9:23AM
    techspec wrote: »
    Hardly unsolicited when the op ordered the item.
    Did they?

    The op ordered goods originally but they were unavailable and the money was refunded thereby completing the original contract.

    Unless the OP placed a further order for the same goods there they were unsolicited.
  • unholyangel
    unholyangel Posts: 16,866 Forumite
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    fred7777 wrote: »
    Did they?

    The op ordered goods originally but they were unavailable and the money was refunded thereby completing the original contract.

    Unless the OP placed a further order for the same goods there they were unsolicited.

    No actually they werent. “unsolicited” means, in relation to goods sent to any person, that they are sent without any prior request made by him or on his behalf. (see http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1971/30/contents)

    It does not cover mistakes. There must have been no prior request at all in order for it to qualify as unsolicited goods and they must be the intended recipient.
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    No actually they werent. “unsolicited” means, in relation to goods sent to any person, that they are sent without any prior request made by him or on his behalf. (see http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1971/30/contents)

    It does not cover mistakes. There must have been no prior request at all in order for it to qualify as unsolicited goods and they must be the intended recipient.

    But then, it could be argued that the cancellation of the order rendered the "prior request" non-existent.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
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