Reports emerging on prelimanary Euro break talks

kabayiri

michaels wrote: »

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Fortunately I think that would be a democratic deficit too far but I guess emergency powers could be invoked to put something in place with a it is Europe or default' referendum to follow with only one 'right' answer being accepted...

I can see the ballot paper now

Do you :

a) want an integrated Europe ?
b) want total chaos, anarchy, shoeless children running about in sewage laden gutters, and dog meat becoming part of your staple diet.

It's lucky we won't be included, because some inhabitants in Rochdale will already think we have b).

Graham_Devon

kabayiri wrote: »

I can see the ballot paper now

Do you :

a) want an integrated Europe ?
b) want total chaos, anarchy, shoeless children running about in sewage laden gutters, and dog meat becoming part of your staple diet.

It's lucky we won't be included, because some inhabitants in Rochdale will already think we have b).

I reckon it will be more along the lines of:

Please vote for your choice -

A) An intergrated europe

When you have selected your choice, please return this paper to your German or French representative.

Heyman_2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I reckon it will be more along the lines of:

Please vote for your choice -

A) An intergrated europe

When you have selected your choice, please return this paper to your German or French representative.

Rather like this -

The_White_Horse

it will be "yes" or "no" - but remember, if you vote "no" we will keep going on ad infinitum until we get a "yes".

Jennifer_Jane

drc wrote: »

What a farce. And these politicians are responsible for running their countries (and Europe):eek:. I think Europe would have been in a better state if monkeys were in charge.

Well, I don't know .... have just been watching the Deputy Irish Prime Minister on 'Russia Today' saying that Ireland is doing fine, thank you, and on the way to recovery.

So I'm hoping they'll be paying back the £400m they borrowed from us very soon, then, and at a good interest rate. If I've got it right, apparently the interest rate hasn't been negotiated. (Source: Parliament Live today, can't remember which MP was saying it, though).

Going4TheDream

Conrad wrote: »

I have a thread in discussion time I did a few days back and my feeling is Italy may have to bail out.

There are 2 key problems with the Euro project, one is that the markets and world consumers are telling us that the European social contract model is too costly and no longer viable and secondly, that the old style borrow and spend method cannot be tollerated.

To add, it utter nonsense that the left are peddling this myth that we are unable to trade effectively by ourselves. Why does no media interviewer ever ask them to explain how it is nations such as Japan trade perfectly well without needing to be part of some buracratic amalgamation with other nations?

To me this is the $64m question and one to that even upon writing to my MP have failed to have answered to any satisfactory level.

I was told 10% of the jobs in the UK rely on doing trade with Europe......

But to me that also means 90% dont.

I try hard, but I fail to see what exactly we gain out of being in Europe on any scale that is worth the large amount of money we contribute, and the total control that they seem to want over the whole country.

Road_Hog

Mallotum_X wrote: »

The only real way a large single currency can work is with political integration. Cant see how we can have one without the other.

The Euro was always about political union, it was the foot in the door. The correct way to do this, would be to have political union first, followed by fiscal union.

However, like all things to do with the EU, it is all done by lies and sleight of hand. The EU people knew that no country (or at least not all) would get a political union, so they tried it by the back door.

I remember listening to the chief economist of Commerzbank, a couple of years ago on radio Five Live in the afternoon. Although he was pro EU, he was very honest and straight up. And basically stated that the Euro was about political union and that it had been done the wrong way around and that the EU should have told people what it was doing and why. The beeboids started frothing and trying to get him off the air as soon as possible.

The trouble with the EU is that it has been a lie from start to finish and when people have disagreed with it and voted no, the EU has either changed the rules or told them to vote again, but this time the 'right' answer.

But then I'm not surprised, because the EU is run by a communist, no not that bank clerk from Belgium, but Barroso. For those muttering to themselves, Hoggy's own on another Marxists rant, put Barroso and communist in Google if you need confirmation.

What makes me laugh, is that the press start frothing about any politician that they deem far right, but we readily accept far left politicians and communists.