Leaving current job...to look for another one.

Idiophreak

cheapgames wrote: »

I disagree with that, I think a degree can close doors - many leave with no reasonable or relevant work experience, as a result are now unemployable and have nothing left to fall back on

You can disagree with it all you want - it doesn't stop it from being true. OP's stated they work in IT where I'd estimate a good 99% of jobs either require a degree or state it as highly preferable. My employer rarely recruits those with a single degree, preferring to employ those with postgrad qualifications - and they're far from alone.

I think there's a certain argument against getting a random degree for the sake of it, but in certain industries it's absolutely sensible to gain a relevant degree.

OP - I agree with everyone else. Just make time for the interviews...take holiday, a couple of sickies - the same as everyone else does.

scheming_gypsy

Idiophreak wrote: »

You can disagree with it all you want - it doesn't stop it from being true. OP's stated they work in IT where I'd estimate a good 99% of jobs either require a degree or state it as highly preferable. .

Depends which part of IT. If it's a support role then your figures are pretty much the wrong way round. 99% of support roles want experience and the remaining 1% are either low paid and 'suit a graduate' or the person advertising hasn't come from a support background and thinks that you can learn IT support in a classroom.

programming / web design etc, normally like a degree but the industry and technology changes that fast, qualifications are defunct in no time.

DKLS

It would be very foolish to leave a job, before securing another. Ten years ago I would have said go for it, but the world has changed. You only have 1 yrs experience, focus on building your skill set and looking for the next role, manage your time so you can attend interviews, times can usually be negotiated, for early evening, very early morning, weekends etc.

Over the years I have had interviews at various non standard interview hours and in locations such as motorway service stations and most recently in a pub for 5 hours over numerous beers.

getmore4less

altin wrote: »

Hi all.

After graduated last year, i have a full time IT job (related to my degree), but in terms of prospectus, finance etc, is far from what I was looking for.

To cut it short, I'm looking to leave....
Main reason: I have no time for proper job hunting AND have turned down a few interviews for not being able to attend(due to full time commitment).

Any advice please.

Use you holidays

heretolearn_2

This is the same problem everyone has always faced, but I've never heard of anyone leaving a job so they could have more time for interviews!

Take holiday leave, ask for some unpaid leave for emergency boiler repair, ask the interviewers if they can give you a time early morning/after work (if they are that interested in you, they will).

Throwing yourself back on the dole is an incredibly stupid idea. Supposing it takes you a year or two to find your next job? That's completely realistic at the moment.

On 'motivation', yes it's nice to enjoy your work and feel valued and motivated to work hard. But most jobs are boring and the expectation that work should be 'fun' and 'enriching' is actually quite a new one. I think it's an element of us all getting a bit spoiled these days, our expectations are too high. At the most basic level work = getting money. that's all the motivation most people have ever needed to do their job properly, and if it's all the motivation you have at the moment, take it seriously. You have made an agreement with your employer, I do X, you pay me Y. They are keeping their side. Be an adult and keep yours. Do you think people are highly 'motivated' to stack shelves in supermarkets, muck out pig styes, pander to yet another idiotic customer, paint 10,000m of brick wall, etc etc by anything other than an understanding that this is 'work', and it's what they've been paid to do. always do your job to the best of your abilities, the employer isn't here to make it fun for you, if that was the case hardly anyone would do anything.

I think you need to open your eyes a little to the realities of the working world. You can't just walk out of one job and into another - that finished in the 70s. You can't just 'not bother' at the job you are being paid to do and expect some outside force to 'motivate' you. Motivation always comes from within, from the desire to earn your own living, from taking pride in doing a good job, from self-respect.

an9i77

I work in recruitment and it's common, particularly at first stage interviews, for the candidate to request it to be held eithe really early in the morning eg 8 am or towards the end of the day eg 4pm or even 5pm. If we like the look of the candidate then as often as not we will accomodate this request because we want to find the right person. I can only imagine that the candidate is either working on some sort of flexitime arrangement, or will be telling their current employer they have a doctors appointment / have to wait in for the washing machine to be repaired/ need to leave early and can make the hours back another time/ insert your excuse here. Why not try this approach, if you are going through agencies they will be able to negotiate a suitable time for interview with the recruiting employer on your behalf. If you get to second stage interview (if there is more than one stage) , then maybe you can request a half day's holiday or something - I can understand if you use holiday for every interview then it may look a bit suss if you get a lot of interviews in a short time. But don't give up your job unless you have a serious wodge of cash you don't mind dipping in to, you don't know when you will get another one and you are always more attractive to employers if you are already in a job - they will know you are applying because you really want to, not because you have to.

Idiophreak

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

Depends which part of IT. If it's a support role then your figures are pretty much the wrong way round. 99% of support roles want experience and the remaining 1% are either low paid and 'suit a graduate' or the person advertising hasn't come from a support background and thinks that you can learn IT support in a classroom.

programming / web design etc, normally like a degree but the industry and technology changes that fast, qualifications are defunct in no time.

A degree's good for getting you in the door, after a couple of years your experience is absolutely more valuable, so it doesn't matter if the degree's still relevant (although, whilst technologies are quick to change, principles and paradigms shift somewhat more slowly).

re: support positions, I just did a test search for "it support" and 6 of the first 10 jobs I found mentioned a degree as being required or preferable. the rest were for, essentially, first line support and didn't even require experience in support...

magenta22

an9i77 wrote: »

I work in recruitment and it's common, particularly at first stage interviews, for the candidate to request it to be held eithe really early in the morning eg 8 am or towards the end of the day eg 4pm or even 5pm.

If we like the look of the candidate then as often as not we will accomodate this request because we want to find the right person. I can only imagine that the candidate is either working on some sort of flexitime arrangement, or will be telling their current employer they have a doctors appointment / have to wait in for the washing machine to be repaired/ need to leave early and can make the hours back another time/ insert your excuse here.

Why not try this approach, if you are going through agencies they will be able to negotiate a suitable time for interview with the recruiting employer on your behalf. If you get to second stage interview (if there is more than one stage) , then maybe you can request a half day's holiday or something - I can understand if you use holiday for every interview then it may look a bit suss if you get a lot of interviews in a short time.

That's all very well but I have requested that interviews are held before or after work or even at lunchtime. More often than not, you get - sorry we only have the time offered available.

You can only give so many excuses before your employer will become suspicious.

I also found your post very difficult to read with no paragraphs.

Motivation - difficult one, it depends. I find it difficult to get motivated at work but mainly because for 95% of the working time I have nothing to do (which I have spoken with my line manager about again and she is stumped and doesn't know how to rectify that :shocked: )

If you have things to do, try to invent ways of making it a little more enjoyable. Perhaps listen to some music while you are doing the task in hand.

scheming_gypsy

Idiophreak wrote: »

A degree's good for getting you in the door, after a couple of years your experience is absolutely more valuable, so it doesn't matter if the degree's still relevant (although, whilst technologies are quick to change, principles and paradigms shift somewhat more slowly).

re: support positions, I just did a test search for "it support" and 6 of the first 10 jobs I found mentioned a degree as being required or preferable. the rest were for, essentially, first line support and didn't even require experience in support...

i'm an IT contractor and i rarely see any jobs wanting a degree. BUT first line isn't my area as it is entry level / low paid etc which would tie in what we're both saying. entry level / low paid / graduate and no experience (as it's call logging and password changes)

rabb

magenta22 wrote: »

That's all very well but I have requested that interviews are held before or after work or even at lunchtime. More often than not, you get - sorry we only have the time offered available.

You can only give so many excuses before your employer will become suspicious.

I also found your post very difficult to read with no paragraphs.

Motivation - difficult one, it depends. I find it difficult to get motivated at work but mainly because for 95% of the working time I have nothing to do (which I have spoken with my line manager about again and she is stumped and doesn't know how to rectify that :shocked: )

If you have things to do, try to invent ways of making it a little more enjoyable. Perhaps listen to some music while you are doing the task in hand.

You get paid for doing nothing and think this requires mentioning it to your line manager? :eek: At worst you could end up out of a job, at best you'll have loads of more work to sort and a lot more stress!