Work hard or not?

eyelinerprincess

Not everyone on benefits gets hundreds a week. I was on JSA for three months and wasn't entitled to anything except the £52 (or whatever pitiful amount they gave me).

KevInChester

liggins wrote: »

How is working for benefit money one step away from slavery??!?!?!?!?!

When you factor in that people on benefits get 48 quid a week plus housing benefit plus no council tax plus free prescriptions etc etc etc they very quickly end up on more money than an actual NMW worker!

Sorry to hijack the OP question but feel i need to point out the obvious to KevInChester..

People on benefits complain that they will be worse of if they accept a NMW job but at the same time you complain that making them work for benefits is modern day slavery...? Well it can't be both can it

Not always the case. Also if you are doing the exact same job as another worker and being paid at what amounts to something like £2 an hour, then yes it really isn't too far away from slavery. There are exceptions, however at no point should private companies be benefiting from this.

planning303

eyelinerprincess wrote: »

Not everyone on benefits gets hundreds a week. I was on JSA for three months and wasn't entitled to anything except the £52 (or whatever pitiful amount they gave me).

hmmmm, without you explaining your whole personal situation at that time (which i really do not care about) I am unable to give a suitable answer to your vague statement

saintjammyswine

KevInChester wrote: »

Not always the case. Also if you are doing the exact same job as another worker and being paid at what amounts to something like £2 an hour, then yes it really isn't too far away from slavery. There are exceptions, however at no point should private companies be benefiting from this.

Why? They provide a service, at best they get an extra pair of hands but dont forget that the extra admin, mentoring & training required more than outweighs the wage they would have paid.

planning303

KevInChester wrote: »

Not always the case. Also if you are doing the exact same job as another worker and being paid at what amounts to something like £2 an hour, then yes it really isn't too far away from slavery. There are exceptions, however at no point should private companies be benefiting from this.

If you are going to complain about the harsh treatment of people on benifits which quite frankly is a shockingly easy life... then perhasps they should just get a job instead of whinging when someone tries to help them.

"Please give me free money and please don't expect me to do any form of work when i could just be sat in my free house watching jeremy kyle on my tele from brighthouse"

R8ch3l

This is an interesting thread. As an employer a couple of things come to mind:

PP is correct that showing up your colleagues would be a mistake - especially if you want friends to have lunch with..
An employer wants a productive employee who exceeds their expectations but doesn't rock the boat with other staff
Work hard - yes - but do it in such a way that your manager is the person who notices

Read the book - The Rules of Work... then you'll get what I mean.

relief

I'm baffled by your initial approach to employment - why would you not want to work hard?? If this is the approach you're taking to something so positive then I would be surprised if this will even become an issue for you - they will be more likely give the job to someone who wants it.

planning303

I think we've found out why the OP is out of work and signing on :P

SandC

KevInChester wrote: »

So they want you to work for 4 weeks for just your benefit money right? Why do people think this is acceptable, do you really think it would take an average person that long to learn how to use a till or to stack some shelves? It's one step away from slavery, and is unfortunately becoming the norm.

If experience is an issue then you should be set up with charity shops and the like.

/Edit

If you want the job I suggest working hard and like others have said maybe being marked out for early promotion, or at the very least be in a position to move to a better company.

Would you then find it acceptable if people in full time employment also had their housing, council tax etc. paid for them while earning a wage? Fair's fair after all.......

Oldernotwiser

Martynb_ wrote: »

I'm worried. If I work hard, and get the job, will they expect me to work hard all the time? What if I just work at my own pace? At least, then, I won't give the impression that I'm a push-over.

A wind up, surely?