national insurance help

faganagent

Hi all just thought someone might be able to advise me on this.

I recently started a new job on the 1st September - and partly my own fault for not asking but didnt realise the cutoff date to get my hours in for pay was the 17th September. Next pays cut off date was the 17th October and i duly put in all hours from 1st September up until 17th October which in effect was nearly 7 weeks pay. I have been absolutely clobbered on my national insurance and realise that NI is not accumalative over the year but still feel a bit hard done by as i thought it was worked out on a monthly basis but as i have 7 weeks worth of pay in one pay packet it came to a lot more money than if i had put in the 3 weeks pay in September and the 4 weeks pay in October and had two seperate pay packets. Hope this makes sense but my question is is there any was i could claim the NI back or not?

Thanks for any help

cr1mson

No afraid not. My last job was below ni threshold but in last month I got a bonus that took me over weekly threshold. Spoke to ni helpline and can't claim back ni.

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chrisbur

An employer paying someone for the first time is allowed to work out NI seperately for each pay period if the payment spans more than one pay period. Details are on page 38 of

Employer Further Guide to PAYE and NICs

at
www.hmrc.gov.uk/guidance/cwg2.pdf

"If the interval between an employee starting work
and the first payday spans two or more earnings
periods, and each period is in the same tax year,
work out NICs on the amounts due for each of those
earnings periods separately using the normal
earnings period.
Example
A new employee starts work on 13 June and is
due to be paid monthly on the last day of each
month. The earnings period is monthly and the
first payday is 31 July. The employee receives
£2,250 gross pay which is made up of
£750 for the period 13 June – 30 June
£1,500 for the period 1 July – 31 July.
Work out NICs separately on the payment:
• for June of £750 and record NICs on the
employee’s form P11 in tax month 3
• for July of £1,500 and record NICs on the

employee’s form P11 in tax month 4."

They may not be aware of this and also may not be prepared to adjust as they may see it as your fault that the details did not go through on time but may be worth a try.