How to negotiate a higher salary upon a job offer.

mountainofdebt

mayling03 wrote: »

I don't think I'm putting it at risk, since the application, it has been 2 months for this recruitment process, they have whittled us down from 126 applicants to 4 people for 2 jobs, what's 1-2k to a company that's turning over 5billion dollars each year. the company invests heavily in its employees so I think they will value the person more than the pay. Also the job ad states 22-24k. And as previous posters haver suggested, if they will not budge, I will HAPPILY take a pay cut.

Arghhhh...

It may only seem like its £1-£2k to you the employee but given that that extra £1-£2K attracts EMPLOYER NI payments and I have no doubt you'd expect pension payments on that £1K-£2K, its not a simple £1-£2 to the employer is it?

Acc72

mayling03 wrote: »

hence I say I am in a position to bargain.

If I understand correctly, you haven't actually been offered a job ? - hence, you are not in a position to bargain.

ironlady2022

Acc72 wrote: »

If I understand correctly, you haven't actually been offered a job ? - hence, you are not in a position to bargain.

If you look in my original post, it states a hypothetical situation for IF I was offered a job.

In my recent post, I HAVE been offered the job but due to headcount, I'm still awaiting final result to say if I have actually got the job. And now admittedly I guess it's even harder to bargain given the circumstances.

getmore4less

mayling03 wrote: »

If you look in my original post, it states a hypothetical situation for IF I was offered a job.

In my recent post, I HAVE been offered the job but due to headcount, I'm still awaiting final result to say if I have actually got the job. And now admittedly I guess it's even harder to bargain given the circumstances.

I think you may have the upper hand as long as the budget is there for the higher salary.

If they are still trying to justify the project to the US they will be going, we have these 2 great guys ready to start etc. going to look a bit silly if they then have to go back and say one turned the job down for £1k-£2k.


IME this sort of thin is fairly common with US companies we (IT products) had it happen quite a lot and I have seen people trying to get jobs with MS,Apple,etc have this happen over the years.

ironlady2022

getmore4less wrote: »

I think you may have the upper hand as long as the budget is there for the higher salary.

If they are still trying to justify the project to the US they will be going, we have these 2 great guys ready to start etc. going to look a bit silly if they then have to go back and say one turned the job down for £1k-£2k.


IME this sort of thin is fairly common with US companies we (IT products) had it happen quite a lot and I have seen people trying to get jobs with MS,Apple,etc have this happen over the years.

This is my first time applying to a US company, never heard of this before until told recently that it's fairly common practise. Fair enough, hard to stomach really but both sides have put effort in, can't blame HR dept who have been dealing with me, as they have been great. Also agree with previous posts, it's out of their hands really when someone higher up just decides to freeze recruitment. To be honest I'd even settle for a lower wage as I know there is plenty of scope and opportunity once I get my foot in the door.

I must say they should stop doing it this way round as it's so time consuming for the internal department, putting all that effort in for nothing in the end!

Acc72

mayling03 wrote: »

In my recent post, I HAVE been offered the job but due to headcount, I'm still awaiting final result to say if I have actually got the job.

And now admittedly I guess it's even harder to bargain given the circumstances.

As I said previously, if I understand correctly you haven't actually been offered a job - hence, you are not in a position to bargain.

ironlady2022

Acc72 wrote: »

As I said previously, if I understand correctly you haven't actually been offered a job - hence, you are not in a position to bargain.

Can I just say you are being extremely rude. I asked a question, don't need people telling me what I said and challenging me. Unlike others you have offered zero help. As I said it was a 'hypothetical' situation and in that sense I DO have bargaining power.

Acc72

mayling03 wrote: »

Can I just say you are being extremely rude. I asked a question, don't need people telling me what I said and challenging me. Unlike others you have offered zero help. As I said it was a 'hypothetical' situation and in that sense I DO have bargaining power.

Of course, you can say whatever you like.

I do not see where I have been rude, but that is your opinion.

I did try to help - what I was saying is, worry about negotiating a pay increase when you have actually been offered the job.

Your last sentence does not make sense. What bargaining power do you believe you have to negotiate a pay increase for a job that you have not got ?

an9i77

Acc72, she is asking people's advice on what she should do IF she is offered the job. We can give advice on hypothetical situaitons as well as real ones! perhaps she wants to plan her next move so that she knows what to say when she gets the offer, rather than saying um and ah, then posting on MSE and going back to them a few days later when the optimal time to negotiate her salary could have passed.

ironlady2022

Thank you an9i77, that is exactly my point. I want to plan well ahead should the problems arise.