Hard up homeowners should be selling up.

ukcarper

dtsazza wrote: »

The original post was in the context of whether people in that situation ought to get some sort of benefits or not.

So every taxpayer has a reasonable say in whether public funds go to help those with a six-figure net wealth.

(And in the OP's specific case, if they're complaining to him he likely has a personal involvement in the issue too!)

But are the people he is talking about getting or likely to be getting any benefits?

dtsazza

ukcarper wrote: »

But are the people he is talking about getting or likely to be getting any benefits?

*shrug* - I'm not sure. But that appears to be what the OP (and hence this thread) is about:

homelessskilledworker_(emphasis_mine) wrote:

Times are hard now, and with these austerity cutbacks we should not be wasting welfare money when people could be paying their own way. afrer all we do have a huge rental market out there, nobody has a god given right to own.

That's what I think anyway

ukcarper

dtsazza wrote: »

*shrug* - I'm not sure. But that appears to be what the OP (and hence this thread) is about:

I don’t see what they can be getting if they are both working I don’t think you can claim SMI if you are working.

Desperate_Housewife_2-2

MrRee wrote: »

Plenty of people claiming that they are now 'Hard Up' ..... it's a popular cry, an in fashion statement - it's 'chic' to claim to be struggling.

Not many people are actually struggling to put food on the table ... those who say they are, between puffs on a ciggie, mistaken!

They think that SKY TV, ciggies, drink and clubbing are all essentials which the tax payer should be funding for them - as they pop another sprog out into the council flat.

It is as it always has been ..... scum living off the hard working - it should STOP!

Rant over, stand down everyone :-)

I really hope this was an attempt at humour!

People ARE skint, there is a huge increase in the amounts of people who work and still are unable to feed their families and are accessing food banks. Everyday there are people being laid off, companies closing down, redundancies...

OP I reckon the people should do whatever they want, its their business.

Society is set up wrong, there are huge gaps between rich and poor, haves and have nots and it is well documented that the gap is widening.

Conservatives have got it wrong, wrong, wrong, we should be investing in society and build our way out of this recession by investing for the future starting with young people who need jobs, prospects and a future to aspire to without everyone treading on everybody else to get it.

heathcote123

homelessskilledworker wrote: »

I have been pondering over a conversation I had with some not to close friends who live in my old haunt in south london. Like many others they are having a stinker of a time right now, real down to the last penny stuff most months. both were working five years ago, now he is working full time with little overtime now and she is doing a little part time.
All day it was me me me, how this was difficult and how that was difficult. But you looked around the wonderfull home they had with all of it's furnishings and mod cons and I though hold on a minute!. I was not living like this, and to be honest I am not so sick with worry about feeding myself or paying bills. If life really is that difficult for them, and by all accounts it has been for a while, why do they not sell the house.

I am pretty certain they could have £200k plus in equity, they would probably claim £250k plus being deluded property !!!!!! worshippers. They have enough money there to pay about 15 years rent without even touching their wages.

Look, I know if they want to fight for their home its fine. But there are all kinds of sob stories out there where some are in the same postion and building up debt and they are sitting on a mountain of equity.

Times are hard now, and with these austerity cutbacks we should not be wasting welfare money when people could be paying their own way. afrer all we do have a huge rental market out there, nobody has a god given right to own.

That's what I think anyway

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They are paying for it, surely it's up to them what they do, whether they sell up or stay.

What has welfare got to do with it?

Anywhey they'd be pretty dim to sell up for 15 years rent, and then figure out where to find the money to rent for 20 or 30 years retirement.

Jimmy_31

MrRee wrote: »

Plenty of people claiming that they are now 'Hard Up' ..... it's a popular cry, an in fashion statement - it's 'chic' to claim to be struggling.

Not many people are actually struggling to put food on the table ... those who say they are, between puffs on a ciggie, mistaken!

They think that SKY TV, ciggies, drink and clubbing are all essentials which the tax payer should be funding for them - as they pop another sprog out into the council flat.

It is as it always has been ..... scum living off the hard working - it should STOP!

Rant over, stand down everyone :-)

Plenty of the working population are skint.

Just thought i would let you know:)

FTBFun

I suspect the conversations referred to in the OP didn't actually happen. Or maybe I'm just being cynical?

Going4TheDream

Desperate_Housewife wrote: »

I really hope this was an attempt at humour!

People ARE skint, there is a huge increase in the amounts of people who work and still are unable to feed their families and are accessing food banks. Everyday there are people being laid off, companies closing down, redundancies...

OP I reckon the people should do whatever they want, its their business.

Society is set up wrong, there are huge gaps between rich and poor, haves and have nots and it is well documented that the gap is widening.

Conservatives have got it wrong, wrong, wrong, we should be investing in society and build our way out of this recession by investing for the future starting with young people who need jobs, prospects and a future to aspire to without everyone treading on everybody else to get it.

How should they be doing it...seems to be all that happened under Labour was a massive increase in public sector non jobs when they could have looked at investment in proper sustainable jobs by encouraging investment through tax breaks etc by companies into high unemployment areas.

All such non jobs have done is keep the unemployment figures lower at a huge cost to the tax payer, something that maybe was affordable when the private sector were doing well but not now when the private sector are cutting back or employing on lower salaries ????

After the boom years the books should have not been in the red when they handed over surely? so where did the money actually go??

MrRee_2

I'm sure those who claim to be very hard up (I have been bankrupt and penniless in my life) also smoke (I did when skint!) drink and go out for booze ups, they will have SKY TV and a SmartPhone (my phone cost me £3! on PAYG) - I am guessing that they drive a car and holiday abroad, there will be a 42" Plasma TV in the lounge and a Playstation3 sat on the mat.

I come from a time when being hard-up meant being hard-up .... today it simply means that you cannot send 500 texts a day or have that 12th pint down the club, or - heaven forbid - go on a 3 week trip to Ibiza!!

Desperate_Housewife_2-2

Going4TheDream wrote: »

How should they be doing it...??

by investing in the future as per USa back in the 1920s, thats why they built the Hoover dam, to invest in jobs and kick start the economy.

I'm not saying labour are perfect and yes they made mistakes but at least they invested in the NHS which was on its last legs when the Tories finished with it...