Professional Registration

persa

samwich1979 wrote: »

Just found my recent registration details when i last updated my details in October 2010 and it is a certificate saying i am registered until 30th November 2012!

So basically just because my bank closed my account and they couldnt take my payment they have stopped my registration and although i hadnt changed my address since i recently moved they have my correct telephone number and could have let me know in this way.

Do you think i have a leg to stand on with this? as they shouldnt just stop my registration so soon after a returned payment should they? seems a bit harsh in my opinion.

I am going to try and ring back in the morning and see if they can just take a payment for £60 for this months installment.

It really depends on the terms, although I'm surprised that you can be 'registered' without paying in advance. I thought most professional subs etc had to be paid for upfront. Whatever the T&Cs do or don't say, it's definitely worth giving a call tomorrow just in case they can do something for you.

Fingers crossed you get some good news tomorrow when you ring up, but if you do have to go through the form filling process again, do not let it stress you out and definitely do not lie on the forms!

samwich1979

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Compared to losing not only your job but your career? It really isn't a big deal!

You obviously dont know how bad it is for this kind of thing to happen to you!

Seen it with others and you get treated like you have done something wrong by the bosses at work, even though you know its the registration body that completely messed things up for you and made it equally hard to get back on the register.

samwich1979

persa wrote: »

It really depends on the terms, although I'm surprised that you can be 'registered' without paying in advance. I thought most professional subs etc had to be paid for upfront. Whatever the T&Cs do or don't say, it's definitely worth giving a call tomorrow just in case they can do something for you.

Fingers crossed you get some good news tomorrow when you ring up, but if you do have to go through the form filling process again, do not let it stress you out and definitely do not lie on the forms!

If you cannot afford to pay the full amount up front, which is a lot, you can pay £60 every 3 months by DD. Which is what i have always done.

I am just gonna go ask my neighbour to sign my form and photo and get the rest of the forms etc ready for tomorrow to post just incase i dont get anywhere with them.
I really dont intend to or want to lie, it was just a stressed out thought

jayII

I have a good idea which profession this is, but that's the OPs business.

samwich1979 wrote: »

Just found my recent registration details when i last updated my details in October 2010 and it is a certificate saying i am registered until 30th November 2012!

So basically just because my bank closed my account and they couldnt take my payment they have stopped my registration and although i hadnt changed my address since i recently moved they have my correct telephone number and could have let me know in this way.

Do you think i have a leg to stand on with this? as they shouldnt just stop my registration so soon after a returned payment should they? seems a bit harsh in my opinion.

I am going to try and ring back in the morning and see if they can just take a payment for £60 for this months installment.

That sounds like a good plan.

That aside, I think you're mad to even consider trying to lie about your professional status. Yes, it's a big deal losing a few weeks pay, but it will be a much bigger deal if you are sanctioned.

Not to mention that you won't be insured, could be personally sued, may never work again, and so on and so forth.

persa

samwich1979 wrote: »

I really dont intend to or want to lie, it was just a stressed out thought

Everyone is allowed to think crazy things - the important thing is that they realise this before actually doing anything daft!

Really hope you manage to get this sorted tomorrow, but if not, as I said, any unpleasantness at work will be temporary and try not to let it drag you down when you're at home. You have to be at work during working hours, but you don't still have to be thinking about it when it's you, OH and baby time.

And don't let anyone here upset you either - much of the advice is still helpful, but this board has definitely become a little more unfriendly recently. You're not the only one to notice that!

samwich1979

jayII wrote: »

I have a good idea which profession this is, but that's the OPs business.



That sounds like a good plan.

That aside, I think you're mad to even consider trying to lie about your professional status. Yes, it's a big deal losing a few weeks pay, but it will be a much bigger deal if you are sanctioned.

Not to mention that you won't be insured, could be personally sued, may never work again, and so on and so forth.

I know all of this, hence why it is bothering me so much.

You really have no idea how much this has made me cry today.:(

I dont want to lie at all, i really dont.

And yes my profession is my business only..............

samwich1979

persa wrote: »

Everyone is allowed to think crazy things - the important thing is that they realise this before actually doing anything daft!

Really hope you manage to get this sorted tomorrow, but if not, as I said, any unpleasantness at work will be temporary and try not to let it drag you down when you're at home. You have to be at work during working hours, but you don't still have to be thinking about it when it's you, OH and baby time.

And don't let anyone here upset you either - much of the advice is still helpful, but this board has definitely become a little more unfriendly recently. You're not the only one to notice that!

Thanks i appreciate your kindness!

I hope i can get it sorted too, i really dont need this at all. My husband and my baby are the only ones who have kept me sane this past year so i will be very thankful to come home to them each night believe me.

jayII

samwich1979 wrote: »

I know all of this, hence why it is bothering me so much.

You really have no idea how much this has made me cry today.:(

I dont want to lie at all, i really dont.

I can imagine how upsetting it is, and baby hormones probably don't help.

Try to get it into perspective. The health of you and your loved ones is all that really matters in the grand scheme of things.

Take a deep breath and deal with it step by step. You made a mistake, that's all. Making mistakes is what makes us human.

Things might be bumpy for a few days or weeks, but it will come right in the end, honestly it will.

Good luck. xx

samwich1979

jayII wrote: »

I can imagine how upsetting it is, and baby hormones probably don't help.

Try to get it into perspective. The health of you and your loved ones is all that really matters in the grand scheme of things.

Take a deep breath and deal with it step by step. You made a mistake, that's all. Making mistakes is what makes us human. Things might be bumpy for a few days or weeks, but it will come right in the end.

Good luck. xx

Thanks! I know its only temporary but jeez its stressful when its your career thats involved.

Things will get sorted, i know it, its just getting there.

SarEl

samwich1979 wrote: »

I dont want to lie at all, i really dont....

Then don't. I am deeply concerned that I do not get a sense of the fact that you are going to tell the truth to your employers. people here actually really do understand that your situation is bad. from what you have said you have little or no money, debts, have lost you home and your husband is unemployed. This is usually the bit where "tea and sympathy and it can't get any worse..." comes in. But in this case it can get a lot worse, and simply because people are telling you that doesn't mean for one instance that they are against you.

Regardless of how you explain it, and how bad your circumstances are, you cannot blame your professional association. You have a legal agreement for the payment of your fees and you did not honour it. So they were entitled to suspend or cancel that registration from the moment your payment failed - it isn't their responsibility to know where you live when you move withouit telling them, or to tell you what happened - you shoul have known. If you check your bank statements you know what has been paid and what hasn't. And since failed payments generally carry a bank fee, your bank will have both informed you and charged you for this. I am really not saying this to be spiteful - but this is your responsibility and sticking your head in the sand and blaming someone else isn't going to help at all.

Unless your association agree to reinstate your registration, which I doubt they will do unless you pay them what you owe, then you must tell your employers no matter how annoyed they will be. You are just going to have to deal with that - you cannot entirely blame them since they think they are employing someone who can do certain work because they are registered, and that person, for whatever reason isn't! It isn't entirely surprising that they might be annoyed. They will be significantly more annoyed if they find out that the unregistered someone has lied to them, put them at risk, and acted both unprofessionally and without any due care for the trust that they place in them. No matter how hard things are for you, you know this. You know it because this is your profession. Do not take risks with it. At the moment, you can blame "baby-head" for being forgetful - they don't need to know all the in's amd out's, just the simple fact that you "forgot" - or if they know your registration dates, which they probably do, that you "forgot" the money was being taken out of your account and to put some money in there for it. In the great scheme of things it's the truth with a little white lie - they don't need to know about your personal circumstances if you don't want them to.

But you do have to tell them the truth - it is neither acceptable to lie, or to lie by ommission.