Help worried sick here. Gross Misconduct

dandelionclock30

I know but you have seen how you have been treated when you have done nothing wrong, you will be on this final written warning for a year or 18 months or whatever it is with your company.If they want you out they will definatley get you it only has to be 1 small thing and you dont even have to have definatley done it.They dont have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt like in a criminal court. Its based on resonable belief the standard of proof.
It will be very hard for you on a final written warning because you will have to watch every single thing you do and say because they will be watching and when you make that mistake your gone and theres very little you can do.
I wish you well with it because its horrible being in that position and you will have to have nerves of steel to get through it.

phathanded

I understand what you are saying dandelion. I am going to contest this as far as I can. I will also be keeping my eye on the job market. I have used my time off to renew my C.V and have even sent it off to a few companies. I am looking into becoming a worforce representitive at my current place of employment. This will make it more like hard work to pick on me. I am going to watch exactly what I say and do and keep my head down and you never know I might win my appeal anyway fingers cross.

ohreally

phathanded wrote: »

I am looking into becoming a worforce representitive at my current place of employment. This will make it more like hard work to pick on me.

I would take a step back and consider that move, long and hard.

Put your head above the parapet and you run a real risk of attracting their attention.

phathanded

ohreally wrote: »

I would take a step back and consider that move, long and hard.

Put your head above the parapet and you run a real risk of attracting their attention.

I think my head is already well above the parapet and I have done nothing wrong. Might as well be hung a sheep as a lamb. I am absolutely devestated by how I have been treated.

ohreally

There is more than one way to skin a cat. Let the dust settle and if you feel the inclination is still there, consider becoming appointed as a H&S rep. There are good TUC training courses which you will get free of charge. In theory a H&S rep has somewhat more protection than a steward.

http://www.unionlearn.org.uk/education/index.cfm?mins=12

Savvy_Sue

One reason why they might move one of you but not the other is not as a punishment, but to separate the two of you. But if someone's been wanting to separate you from your relative for some time - even though in your opinion there have been no problems - then that would be why they are moving you and not your colleague. Because how you get to and from work is not their problem, and where you choose to live is not their problem. After all, if your relative got another job somewhere, you'd have to sort it!

Acc72

Jarndyce wrote: »

You know how they have come to the decision. They have found, having investigated the matter, that on the balance of probablities you were guilty of the relevant offence. You have the right of appeal, so use it, but concentrate on the substantive issues not point scoring. Your union rep 'having a field day' is not going to win your appeal.

You need to convince the appeal chair that no reasonable person given the evidence available could come to the conclusion they did and/or that in the alternative, given the doubt about your personal guilt, that the punishment was too severe given your clean disciplinary record.

The above is perfect advice.

Forget about the periphery - you need to concentrate on the second sentence above.

In reality, (whether "right" or "wrong") it is unlikely that the company will back down and find in your favour.

The best you can hope for is for them to downgrade the punishment to a written or verbal warning (at least you won't be teetering on the edge for the next 12 months).

firesidemaid

hi.

as much as i believe in rights and the union, rather than be a workplace rep i think i would just put your efforts into your appeal/clearing your name and your job at the moment - the union work may distract you from your job.

as much as we think we are 'protected', if a company is clever they would find a legit way for you to go, so don't give them any more ammunition.

having once been a workplace rep in an awful workplace, i was surprised how lonely i was and how much of an outcast i came - there wasn't the support i expected, and i left after only 18 months.

i believe for standing up for what

CAN1976

Good Luck with your appeal. If that fails, I personally would be looking for alternative employment. I would not feel secure enough in any role with a final warning over me.

R8ch3l

I agree with PP... you need representation at the meetings and they can't prove a thing. Stick to your guns!