Baby Boomers making out like bandits as usual

McKneff

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I love these arguments.

But one point....it's all well and good having a pop at the younger generation, suggesting we want it all and want it all now, blah de blah.

But who did we we, the youngsters get this attitude from?

Going to upset a few just stating that. But surely we only learn what we are shown and given access to?

Or is it maybe not that we want it all and want it now? I dunno. But you can't continually blame the younger generation, neither can you continually blame the older generation. There just seems to be generational warfare.

The attitude that every youngster is out clubbing it and paying £5 for a lager is no better than the attitude that baby boomers had everything easy. Baby boomers had their day for partying. It was called the 60's. No one ever went drinking at festivals? Could have fooled me....no one ever spent money on entertainment and enjoyment? Strange how the Beatles etc raked in such a fortune.

No, sorry, I didnt mean every youngster is paying £5 a bottle for a small bottle of lager, obviously. I suppose it depends on what you did in the 60's really, as today each of us is individual. I married at 18 so no partying/glastonbury fests for me, with a baby.:D on the way. They did spend money on entertainment etc. but the greed from the capitalist wasnt there those days, the reasonable profit for businesses was there of course, but there is so much today of 'lets get as much money as we can out of as may people as we can in the shortest possible time, and its wrong. I Know Im going off topic but it angers me that these people take the younger generation for mugs and I dont like it.

Oldernotwiser

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Baby boomers had their day for partying. It was called the 60's. No one ever went drinking at festivals? Could have fooled me....no one ever spent money on entertainment and enjoyment? Strange how the Beatles etc raked in such a fortune.

Festivals only started at the very end of the 60s and were far more a phenomenon of the 70s. There were far fewer festivals then than there are now.

Going4TheDream

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I love these arguments.

But one point....it's all well and good having a pop at the younger generation, suggesting we want it all and want it all now, blah de blah.

But who did we we, the youngsters get this attitude from?

Going to upset a few just stating that. But surely we only learn what we are shown and given access to?

Or is it maybe not that we want it all and want it now? I dunno. But you can't continually blame the younger generation, neither can you continually blame the older generation. There just seems to be generational warfare.

The access to easy credit for many fueled the have it now generation. In the 70's if you wanted credit or HP you had to save a percentage of the cost and then prove you could repay what you wanted to borrow to pay the difference. Credit cards were what rich people had! People in my mum and dad' era saved for what they wanted and only took out credit on 'big' ticket items. People made do or went without or saved up

That all changed with the access of easy credit, and people realised that they could have something on the 'never never' without saving .

It is a damn bad state of affairs when a student who has no income can get a credit card. There is no hardship or commitment in getting a shiny piece of plastic out of your wallet and buying something you know that you cannot afford .....

Fred_Bear_2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

But you can't continually blame the younger generation, neither can you continually blame the older generation. There just seems to be generational warfare.

Totally agree. Why can't we have a civilised discussion where we learn from each other? Older people obviously have more experience but younger people know what it's like to be making their way in life now, with today's problems. Anyone up for that?

ruggedtoast

Fred_Bear wrote: »

Totally agree. Why can't we have a civilised discussion where we learn from each other? Older people obviously have more experience but younger people know what it's like to be making their way in life now, with today's problems. Anyone up for that?

Boomers grew up mortgaging their childrens futures away so that they could have comfortable pensions, free education, lavish benefits, bumper public spending, secure unionised employment, and rocketing house prices. Meanwhile they guzzled up finite resources like oil, coal and gas like it was going out of fashion and filled up megatonnes of landfill with their thoughtless unrecycled waste.

At no point in the UK's history could any of the wealth they created pay for managing all this, so we, are left with the bill.

What precisely is it you want to learn from them?

JayBrun

Fred_Bear wrote: »

Totally agree. Why can't we have a civilised discussion where we learn from each other? Older people obviously have more experience but younger people know what it's like to be making their way in life now, with today's problems. Anyone up for that?

I agree but considering the first post:

ruggedtoast wrote: »

....With a wasted generation hitting the dole queues all over the country, their pockets stuffed with worthless new labour exam certificates, and their own parents struggling to pay the rent to their boomer btl slumlords, it is clear that these boomers have the country stitched up like a kipper.

I think this thread was inevitably never going to be a reasoned discussion between 'the haves' and 'have nots'.

Hopefully it can turn around but I suspect many are too far apart and some will take no notice and just vent their frustration.

I hope I'm wrong.

Edit: RuggedToast beat me to it by 60 seconds.

ruggedtoast

There is no solution other than for the boomers to give back some of the wealth they have stolen. They created an economy that revolved around burdening people who werent even born with ever increasing debts to pay for things that vastly benefited baby boomers and would be utterly denied to the people lumbered with paying their bills.

reweird

No one's stolen anything. Grow up and move on with your life like we all did. Honestly this me, me, me yoof culture we have today of self-entitled man-babies is pathetic.

Frogletina

Going4TheDream wrote: »

The access to easy credit for many fueled the have it now generation. In the 70s if you wanted credit or HP you had to save a percentage of the cost and then prove you could repay what you wanted to borrow to pay the difference.

Let's not forget that women could not easily get HP either. My mother (working fulltime, and widdowed at a young age) was unable to take out a hire purchase agreement without it being guaranteed by a man, whereas my brother had no such problem.

Going4TheDream

ruggedtoast wrote: »

There is no solution other than for the boomers to give back some of the wealth they have stolen. They created an economy that revolved around burdening people who werent even born with ever increasing debts to pay for things that vastly benefited baby boomers and would be utterly denied to the people lumbered with paying their bills.[/QUOTE

I am sorry honey but you need to take a step back and really look at what you have written.

Explain how any one 'stole' anything.......

People worked, paid their taxes, bought or rented a home..... I fail to see your point... do you think the 'average person' in the street back then really had any influence on the situation today.............

And finally if you still think the 'baby boomer's' owe something how do you propose it should be 'taken' back