Baby Boomers making out like bandits as usual

RenovationMan

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Not going to add my own thoughts, there is no point, as it's pretty clear this particular forum is mostly made up of those babyboomer generations.

I'm still waiting for someone to provide a list of contributors who they think are boomers. I have a feeling it will be a long wait.

*Chattie*

As an OAP baby boomer I'd like to know where all these baby boomers are making out as I sure feel I am missing out here

also are bandits the same as rabbits?

OptionARMAGEDDON

if i had my way you wouldnt be recieving a state pensin till your mid 70s, just like the rest of us can expect!

ILW

OptionARMAGEDDON wrote: »

if i had my way you wouldnt be recieving a state pensin till your mid 70s, just like the rest of us can expect!

Apparently, you lot are going to live longer than the boomers on average.

Graham_Devon

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

The Sky/mobile phones thing's really shorthand for saying that earlier generations tended not to spend money on non essentials and that, if you do, there'll be less money to pay for things like housing. From the Boomer side of the bridge, that seems to be what younger people do these days, which is why the comment is made so often.

I honestly cannot see this as true.

I find it to be the most astonishing display of ignorance, and possibly the one thing that grates me most about such a generation labelling a whole generation with such accusations.

There are some, granted, who spend their nights clubbing, their mornings puking and their afternoons sleeping.

But many MANY of us at at work, supporting our families in the best ways we can. How many times do we get told "you need two incomes now for a house"...Many are doing that, and still can't afford to buy, due to other price pressures.

Then on the next thread, you are told that the whole generation is just frivilously wasting any money they happen to get....and it "wasn't like that in our day".

In your day, you could have wasted money in exactly the same way. I'm more than sure that people did then, just as people do now. Yet you choose to tell us you didn't. Well guess what. Many many people don't waste it now and are just trying to get on.

This holier than thou attitude really grates TBH, and whats more, comes accross as complete snotty and immature.

No one is looking at what the article actually stated. I asked before if anyone could tell me if anyone actually thought it could get any better for another generation than what the babyboomers had. No one is willing to suggest things can ever be better than what they had.

As I said, this is just generation warfare. From both sides.

Graham_Devon

oldvicar wrote: »

It stuns me that youngsters think a nite out costs perhaps £100, what with the price of entry to a variety of clubs (in one night!), weird alcoholic drinks (what's wrong with a pint of mild?), taxi home etc. And that's not big city prices.

Of course it costs me next to nothing to buy theatre tickets, have a meal out, with decent wine, etc. And if its not a taxi (because of all the wine), have you seen the price of filling up the Range Rover? :rotfl:

Who? Which youngsters?

A select few party mad ones?

Keep labelling.

If all we are going to do is label others as wanting everything now....how about the babyboomers? Wanting their pensions now as they have done their bit? Everyone else can work longer...

Can't just keep blaming everyone else when you are just as guilty, just from a different perspective.

Oldernotwiser

ukcarper wrote: »

Just to clarify one thing we know babyboomers are between 47 and 65 what are the ages of people we are calling young.

Under 30...

Oldernotwiser

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I honestly cannot see this as true.

I find it to be the most astonishing display of ignorance, and possibly the one thing that grates me most about such a generation labelling a whole generation with such accusations.

There are some, granted, who spend their nights clubbing, their mornings puking and their afternoons sleeping.
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You've misunderstood what I said, I'm afraid, which doesn't help a rational discussion.

When I was younger there was much less to spend money on and if you saw someone with a luxury item on a film, for example, you didn't expect that you'd be able to own the same thing. "Clubs" were nightclubs where actors and pop singers were photographed, not places that you went to yourself.

Can you honestly say that most people in their twenties these days see cars and mobile phones as luxury items and a couple of pints down the pub as a good night out, because you must know very different people than those I know in that age group.

Oldernotwiser

Graham_Devon wrote: »

If all we are going to do is label others as wanting everything now....how about the babyboomers? Wanting their pensions now as they have done their bit? Everyone else can work longer...

Quite a lot of people have had to wait for their pensions.

grizzly1911

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Who? Which youngsters?

A select few party mad ones?

Keep labelling.

If all we are going to do is label others as wanting everything now....how about the babyboomers? Wanting their pensions now as they have done their bit? Everyone else can work longer...

Can't just keep blaming everyone else when you are just as guilty, just from a different perspective.

Most youngsters waste money as most are easily manipulated.

The question is when do they learn they are being manipulated and knuckle down and get on with life.

The generation born during the war could argue why should we pay for a war that was nothing to do with us.

Blaming a couple of generations for our current position is daft. generation.

Many baby boomers have been progressively shafted along the way too. Those following the baby boomers are also being shafted with pensions being trashed (not everyone is on the Government payroll), and the age level to receive a derisory state pension being pushed out in quite big jumps, particularly for women.

The state pension is part of a contract with society, don't forget the current generations coming up to it have contributed to their part during their life time too. It isn't a freebie..

When we question the use of world resources people these days drink bottled water shipped around the world in plastic bottles at great cost, precious and semi precious metals are being consumed in large amounts to fuel the passion for electrical and electronic devices, when you pick up your new mobile do you think "what are we leaving for the next generations?"

Many boomers are sitting on assets driven up in value by the actions of post boomers driving up prices too, some looking to make a quick buck to fuel there need for consumption. Many boomers were in it for the long term and playing by the rules then force ended up in their current position. Most didn't go out to shaft the young. Most will have children of their own who they will want to provide and protect until they are able to fend for themselves.

I am on the cusp of being termed a boomer, being a bit young IMO, but my children are now being faced with the cost of university.

Do I think it is right no. All the student loans merely reflect a hypethecation of government debt from them to the individual. It gets them of the public balance sheet for now to be picked up at some point in the future. I could question why it was largely state funded 30 years ago and now we have swung round to largely individual funded it won't get me anywhere. We just have to play the current game according to the rules.

Successive governments have mismanaged our futures. Many boomers have adapted and cushioned the fall. Many more have not/could not provide for themselves but for seem reason don't get a mention by the trolls here.

Communism, which is what RT is advocating, doesn't work.

We just need more houses to start with, but that is merely alleviating a symptom not the disease.