The cost of inflation

IveSeenTheLight

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Not much choice fella.

It's easy slamming it, but when you need somewhere to live, and want somewhere secure, what choice do many have? I'm lucky to have the choice, rather than be on the merrygo round of 6 month tenancies.

It doesn't need to be 6 month tenancies.
Of course if the tenant wants more security, then they need to sign up for a longer agreement.

I've got one set of tenants who are coming up for their 5 year anniversary. Maybe I'll send them a thank you card, bottle of wine and some chocolates.

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

What about involving the youth with the HA to put forward proposals to curb it, youth club etc.
There are numbers of community funds and grants.
It is more likely bad stewardship than the youth that are really the issue.

It's the parents that are the issue.

No youth club would sort these two families out. It's only two families, but they create havoc. Could move to a leafy suburb and have the same, just the liklihood drops dramatically.

Like I say, I'm not really complaining, just getting very bitter about the current situation. So are my closest mates who face the same problems. We are all the same age group. It's not so much unaffordable housing, it's the fact we seem to be caught in the net of the worst of all worlds. If you bought, negative equity. If you rented, spiralling rents. Having to use debt to get by in some cases, cost of living increasing. Cost of just getting to work going crazy. 2 of us have childcare to pay for, which cripples, but as we both fall into the nomansland of working for less than benefits would give (all benefits considered, inclduing childcare), we find were stuck in an increasingly large pit, with more people joining us.

However, there are far FAR worse off than us. Were not poor by any means. Just seem to be in that group that get nothing, pay for everything and found we were born at a time where everything we did would cost us dearly. Watching women at a certain age complain bitterly they will have to work a bit longer, while being told ourselves "your young, fook you, you can work even longer to make sure we don't have to" and such like does get annoying!!

IveSeenTheLight

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Theres already a very active community watch scheme.

But it's exactly as it says on the tin. Watch.

You simply get to watch whats happening. Not kidding, the whole thing is a farce and a complete waste of money and time, though I have to give it to the house (one on benefits) that do try very hard to keep it going. There are just no resources to actually do anything. All you can do is call the police, who simply suggest it's the housing associations problem, who then encourage more neighbourhood schemes.

It's the same people living here as are doing the damage.

I'm sure if the community picked up their involvement and also started to hang out at the play park during their "watch2, I bet the "youths" would soon move on.

It may be a bit of hardship, but I'm sure it would take too long till they moved on.

IveSeenTheLight

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It's the parents that are the issue.

No youth club would sort these two families out. It's only two families, but they create havoc. Could move to a leafy suburb and have the same, just the liklihood drops dramatically.

Certainly you never know who / how your neighbours will be.

I know a couple that left an estate (with great neighbours) ad moved out to the country just a few miles away with only about 5 properties.
Turns out their "new" neighbours are a pain

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It's the parents that are the issue.

No youth club would sort these two families out. It's only two families, but they create havoc. Could move to a leafy suburb and have the same, just the liklihood drops dramatically.

Bad stewartship then, the HA on our site would have them about before you could say ASBO.

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

Bad stewartship then, the HA on our site would have them about before you could say ASBO.

Are you absolutely sure?

Where would they home them? Is there some kind of slum estate where all these bad eggs are sent to?

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Are you absolutely sure?

Where would they home them? Is there some kind of slum estate where all these bad eggs are sent to?

Our HA have a 8 page antisocial behaviour policy in their tenancy agreement.

So Absolutely sure GD. The only reason we moved to a part affordable development was because we knew the HA were one of the strictest and most community focused in the UK.
Makes sense to me, their stock value is based on how good the area is.

I don't know where they house them, they break their agreement it is not the HA's problem.
Thankfully most of the work is done before handing out houses so it is not really a problem. I can't knock them on that to be honest.

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

Our HA have a 8 page antisocial behaviour policy in their tenancy agreement.

So Absolutely sure GD. The only reason we moved to a part affordable development was because we knew the HA were one of the strictest and most community focused in the UK.
Makes sense to me, their stock value is based on how good the area is.

I don't know where they house them, they break their agreement it is not the HA's problem.

So where do they put thee families?

Really2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

So where do they put thee families?

I don't know it is not the HA's problem as they broke their tennancy agreement and as far as I know they don't tag them and release them into the wild.:)

Presumably they have to make out to the council or another HA they will be good.

They don't have liability to provide housing for those that break their agreement, otherwise the agreement would be meaningless.

Graham_Devon

Really2 wrote: »

I don't know it is not the HA's problem as they broke their tennancy agreement and as far as I know they don't tag them and let them in to the wild.:)

Presumably they have to make out to the council or another HA they will be good.

They don't liability to provide housing for those that break their agreement.

Either we are talking about very different HA's here, or you are confused.

HA's have a responsibility to house tenants. They have to put them somewhere. They can move them on, but in general, when one family is moved, another is bought in, under a general swap type scheme. So you get rid of one bad egg, and get a replacement.

Your HA may be very different, and they may be able to palm these nuisance tenants onto someone else. But I'm not sure who.

This was all part of the plan to stop slum estates. As you don't know what happens to them, I'd suggest you do some research. The HA can't simply make them homeless. The HA I am talking about provides "affordable homes" which are not affordable, retirement homes / villages (and disabled type homes) and social housing. The social housing is always mixed with the affordable homes.