Toynbee - Plan C for public sector workers

ruggedtoast

IronWolf wrote: »

You seem to have an overly simplistic view of the world. The rich are responsible for a lot of the luxuries that people today take for granted. If it wasn't for the immense wealth of families like the Rothschilds then things like the London Underground would never have been built, because noone could afford to finance it.

The rich own businesses that employ people, put money into our economy, if you pull out all this money standards of living would collapse.

You've just illustrated a far more simplistic view. We need rich people to be rich so that they spend money.

Where has that actually proven to have worked? Nowhere.

FTBFun

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You've just illustrated a far more simplistic view. We need rich people to be rich so that they spend money.

Where has that actually proven to have worked? Nowhere.

Apart from in the entire Western world, of course.

ruggedtoast

FTBFun wrote: »

Apart from in the entire Western world, of course.

The entire Western world is wealthy? Have you been to Woolwich?

In any case, the entire world is enslaved to the Bretton Woods neo-liberal stitch up.

Isnt working that well for the majority of people.

ILW

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The entire Western world is wealthy? Have you been to Woolwich?

In any case, the entire world is enslaved to the Bretton Woods neo-liberal stitch up.

Isnt working that well for the majority of people.

The vast majority are better off than they have ever been. How would you define poor?

Nobody in this country needs to go hungry or sleep on the streets.

If your definition of poverty is only having one TV and just a basic mobile phone, then that is a different matter.

FTBFun

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The entire Western world is wealthy? Have you been to Woolwich?

In any case, the entire world is enslaved to the Bretton Woods neo-liberal stitch up.

Isnt working that well for the majority of people.

It's not perfect, but its easily the best system we currently have.

ruggedtoast

FTBFun wrote: »

It's not perfect, but its easily the best system we currently have.

Its the only system we have. By your logic pot noodles are the best thing to buy from a shop that only sells pot noodles.

Its time for a change, its time for radical, hardcore, Socialism.

ILW

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Its the only system we have. By your logic pot noodles are the best thing to buy from a shop that only sells pot noodles.

Its time for a change, its time for radical, hardcore, Socialism.

The everyone can be poor together. (Apart from the "officials" in charge that is).

Kennyboy66

ruggedtoast wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/10/public-sector-workers-plan-c



I like that idea.

Au contraire.

My first thought was to be a little amazed that the government is actually ahead of the curve in pruning the public sector.

How about taking a leaf out of Socialist Bob Mugabe's book and throw all the wealthy white farmers off their land as well, then we could let the people all have little organic market gardens.


I wonder how she got a scholarship at Oxford despite getting only one A level ?

Could it be connected to the fact that daddy and grandad taught at Balliol ?

ruggedtoast

The problem with you lot is that you are so blinded by greed that you cant see you are merely hamsters running in a wheel of futility, trying to chase the nut of riches.

But the system is so rigged that the faster you spin your wheels the further away that nut gets. But someone else is getting that nut, oh yes.

That is basically what capitalism is.

ILW

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The problem with you lot is that you are so blinded by greed that you cant see you are merely hamsters running in a wheel of futility, trying to chase the nut of riches.

But the system is so rigged that the faster you spin your wheels the further away that nut gets. But someone else is getting that nut, oh yes.

That is basically what capitalism is.

Have you been reading books again?