when is the public sector actually going to be sorted out

The_White_Horse

they are the drain.

they just have to be told their ridiculous pensions are unaffordable and it is irrelevant what they have been promised.

what about those in equitable life????

these people are lunatics. look at them protesting in greece. it is all their fault.

andyroberts1967

The_White_Horse wrote: »

they are the drain.

they just have to be told their ridiculous pensions are unaffordable and it is irrelevant what they have been promised.

what about those in equitable life????

these people are lunatics. look at them protesting in greece. it is all their fault.

Oh shut up you tart!! What the hell do you know about the public sector anyway that can't be written on the back of a postage stamp. You keep spewing out this bile and quite frankly it's becoming very tedious. Why don't you crawl back under that rock from whence you came.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Well, when the Condems have sacked them all just watch the benefit bill rocket & tax returns diminish & VAT returns dropping.

Just at the right time.

I wouldnt wish too hard.

heathcote123

andyroberts1967 wrote: »

Oh shut up you tart!! What the hell do you know about the public sector anyway that can't be written on the back of a postage stamp. You keep spewing out this bile and quite frankly it's becoming very tedious. Why don't you crawl back under that rock from whence you came.

Hard day co-ordinating diversity?

dealer_wins

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Well, when the Condems have sacked them all just watch the benefit bill rocket & tax returns diminish & VAT returns dropping.

Just at the right time.

I wouldnt wish too hard.

Logically the benefit bill will rise less than the cost of their salary?

dori2o

OK here we go. Lets get rid of some of the MYTHS surrounding these pensions.

1. Public sector pensions are more generous than those in the private sector.

According to the Hutton report the average public sector pension is £5600pa, where the pensions in the private sector average £5860. So not a lot in it really.

2. Public Sector pensions are unaffordable.

Huttons own report shows that the cost of public sector pensions is falling.

The NAO have confirmed that current public sector pensions are very much sustainable and that the public sector pension reforms agreed in 2007 were on course to deliver savings and stabilise pensions costs, and that they would reduce costs to the taxpayer by 14%.

The IFS also concurs that current public sector pensions are affordable.

3. Public sector need to pay more money to fund their pensions.

WRONG. Not a single penny of the extra contributions will go towards public sector pensions and will instead be used to help pay off the deficit. All the extra contributions will be paid to the treasury to pay for the crisis caused by the banks.

The_White_Horse

the biggest areas (by far) of public spending is public sector salaries, pension and benefits. just halve them all. job done. that is BILLIONS saved. if all the public sector workers don't like it, they can quit and get a much better paid job in the private sector. and I am sure they will because they are brilliant people.

antrobus

dori2o wrote: »

OK here we go. Lets get rid of some of the MYTHS surrounding these pensions.

1. Public sector pensions are more generous than those in the private sector.

According to the Hutton report the average public sector pension is £5600pa, where the pensions in the private sector average £5860. So not a lot in it really....

That figure for £5,860 is the median figure for a defined benefit scheme in the private sector. The chances of any new entrant to the workforce joining a defined benefit scheme in the private sector are currently pretty much close to zero - everyone's gone defined contribution. And with DC the current workforce are now looking at something more like £1,400 pa, so there is quite a lot in it really.

MacMickster

The_White_Horse wrote: »

the biggest areas (by far) of public spending is public sector salaries, pension and benefits. just halve them all. job done. that is BILLIONS saved. if all the public sector workers don't like it, they can quit and get a much better paid job in the private sector. and I am sure they will because they are brilliant people.

Glad to hear that you will support the strike action that the public sector workers will take, as they won't be getting ANY pay while on strike. Think of the savings.

pqrdef

The_White_Horse wrote: »

the biggest areas (by far) of public spending is public sector salaries, pension and benefits. just halve them all. job done.

Of course public bodies would then have to stop outsourcing, because it would be so much cheaper to do everything in-house. So loads of contractors going bankrupt and private-sector workers losing their jobs, but loads of new jobs created in the public sector. Result.

In fact we could re-nationalise the utilities and slash fuel bills and fares as well.

lemonjelly

Here's your chance to contribute positively to the government review of the public sector then:

http://www.openpublicservices.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/

Here's the options. The cabinet are conducting a public review. You can provide feedback directly to them.

Or you can rant on an internet message board, and then in a few months post exactly the same inflammatory type post.