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neverdespairgirl wrote: »I agree, that's mad. Pick "legal" as your area, and it reckons you'll be earning £40k the first year after your 3 year course ends.
that's rubbish! First you need to do the legal practice course or bar vocational course, which is another year. Then, if, and it's a big "if" you get a pupillage or training contract straight away, it would be a miracle to be on £40k!
the metro always claims that 1st year trainees at the magic circle, and those nut job US firms get £40k. of course that's about 0% of law graduates, most of whom will find out that it was a bit of a waste of time and that they are going to be doing a lot of photocopying.0 -
Ye its ridiculous. We need more people in science and less in arty farty subjects which are of no practical use. Lets face it. people in china and africa can do alot of boring office jobs. But people there cant do high level engineering like we can here.
But they can. I teach physics in a boarding school with an international clientele. Top sets for maths and sciences are always full of lots of Chinese kids (and some British and some others, of course), and they almost all go off to do "useful" degrees like engineering, medicine, architecture etc. Most of them are very good at hard sciences, and they almost all work incredibly hard.
We need more scientists and engineers, not because the Chinese can't, but because they can, and they're our competition.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
Never mind .... we clearly simply need more programs like Big Brother and X Factor so everybody can become a celeb.0
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For example... Since when did teachers start on £28K.
They do in the centre of London
http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6000186
Salary scales half way down the page...0 -
I have a law degree but ended up in tax. There's no way to account for that so I conclude this calculator to be utter !!!!!!!!.0
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Actually, allowing for inflation, the teaching salary scale looks to be almost exactly what my wife has earned over the last 7 years since she started.
Sadly on the science career path I seem to be £10k below what I should be on at 33! Also I missed out on the £9k pay increase when I turned 30! Interesting statistics - I wonder if that jump is because most of the low paid scientists give up at 30 and re-train as teachers?!0 -
But they can. I teach physics in a boarding school with an international clientele. Top sets for maths and sciences are always full of lots of Chinese kids (and some British and some others, of course), and they almost all go off to do "useful" degrees like engineering, medicine, architecture etc. Most of them are very good at hard sciences, and they almost all work incredibly hard.
We need more scientists and engineers, not because the Chinese can't, but because they can, and they're our competition.
I think we really need more people who are willing to work hard, or at all..0 -
WISHIWASRICH wrote: »They do in the centre of London
http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6000186
Salary scales half way down the page...
Ah yeah... sorry forgot London covers the whole of the UK.0 -
Even worse is that if it ain't repaid within 30 years, the rest is written off - presumably paid for by the rest of us.
But it's much better than the previous (current) system, where the vast majority of the cost never even appears as part of the loan, and is paid for by us automatically.
Potentially unlimited subsidies for uninspiring candidates, just so the government can claim that the percentage of people going to university has increased, is utterly pointless - and expensive
At least now, candidates are kind of on the hook for the cost of the degree, so there's an element of moral hazard and hopefully people will decide that spending £25,000 on a degree in Rock Star Iconography isn't worthwhile (good choice, go do something useful). It introduces moral hazard, while not requiring payment up front and so not preventing poorer children from going if they have the desire and the grades.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind someone studying a "useless" degree if that's what they want to do, as a hobby of sorts. I just object to the taxpayer subsidising their hobby.0
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