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Redundancy looms! How do my figures stack up?

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  • Muppet81
    Muppet81 Posts: 951 Forumite
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    edited 14 September 2011 at 11:38AM
    Goodness! What a minefield!

    I really do want to treat our new circumstances as a whole new adventure and take responsibility for getting the very best from what we will have but it is so complex and scary.

    So much to learn. :eek:

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  • Muppet81 wrote: »
    Goodness! What a minefield!


    Still - after 600 posts?
  • ??? Don't understand!

    Every £800 I put into a pension becomes £1,000. When I feel like it (probably age 70) I will simply crystalise it and take 25% tax free, and the other 75% at 20% tax immediately on flexible drawdown.

    All I have to do is ensure that I have enough headroom to avoid 40% tax - and worst case is probably drawing half on 1st April, and the other half 15th April. So how do I lose 50%?

    Lose, or denied, access to it. All due to the fact that our drawdown is limited to, currently, a max 15.2% + the 25% = less than 50%. And on your demise the residue will be taxed.
  • fairleads wrote: »
    Still - after 600 posts?

    ??? Afraid you have lost me there Fairleads. What 600 posts?
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  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
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    your post count under yourname?
  • Muppet81 wrote: »

    Excellent advice about puttinmg ISA in my name for tax benefit furposes. Will investigate ISAs thouroughly in advance

    ISAs are not taxable no matter whose name they are in. I think maggieann155's point was about taxable savings accounts.
  • fairleads wrote: »
    Lose, or denied, access to it. All due to the fact that our drawdown is limited to, currently, a max 15.2% + the 25% = less than 50%. And on your demise the residue will be taxed.

    I'm talking about flexible drawdown, so there is no limit.

    Upon my demise, the balance will not be taxed at all, but available to my wife to continue drawing. Only upon the last death [between both of us], would any residue be taxed. Do we care? Not at all. We have no children.
  • I'm talking about flexible drawdown, so there is no limit.

    Upon my demise, the balance will not be taxed at all, but available to my wife to continue drawing. Only upon the last death [between both of us], would any residue be taxed. Do we care? Not at all. We have no children.

    Fair enough, but flexi draw is only available to a minority of pensioners. And the income is taxable.
  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
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    fairleads wrote: »
    Fair enough, but flexi draw is only available to a minority of pensioners. And the income is taxable.

    But even capped drawdown keeps the funds "in the family".
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • gadgetmind wrote: »
    But even capped drawdown keeps the funds "in the family".

    If by family you mean the drawdown provider then yes. Otherwise the annuitant, initial or survivor, is limited to a cap that currently varies from 5.3% to 15.2% of capital. So if you need an income that increases yr on yr the drawdown/asset allocation has to be managed so that the capital increases at a rate greater than the drawdown. Thus it follows that the survivor will pass on without access to the 84.8% residue. I do however understand that by then the capital pot could be 50% of it's original value but (300K /2) x 84.2% is still a fair bit of dosh to wave goodbye to.
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