'Unsupervised' kids

mildred1978

mikey72 wrote: »

Surprisingly. I do find it odd, that no one at all, from either side of the fence, has mentioned that the kids shouldn't be running around naked without any sun cream on. I did keep our kids covered up for that reason, and they have learnt to cover up and not get burnt (They nag at me now, if I don't use cream or oil, and they pack it in case I don't)

(I bet there are some parents on here that worry about putting sun cream on other peoples kids because somone will accuse them of being a child molester)

I personally don't believe in putting chemical sunscreens on children.

Mind you, I also don't believe in letting children run around naked outdoors all day..............

mirrorimage0

peachyprice wrote: »

Really it isn't. There has been no significant increase in stranger child abduction, there has however been a substantial increase in parental child abduction due to the increase of low cost fares, but that's something else entirely.

Children are at a far higher risk of being killed by a car than ever being adbucted.

The media frenzy has painted all men as potential !!!!!philes, which is such a sad state of affairs when you now have men afraid to offer a kind word to children for fear of being accused, I'd hate to be a man in today's paranoid society.

The biggest threat for abuse still comes from family members, friends of the family, people in a position of trust eg teacher, priest etc., same as it always has. You only have to read the number of replies on here from people who were abused as children by people they should have been able to trust to realise that this is the case

but i never said it was more dangerous or happening more for stranger abduction i just said in general it does happen more, even down to child pornoghraphy etc, people have more access and interact more with it, you here horror stories of it happening in nurseries etc yrs ago there wasnt any nowdays there thousands so the odd one it happens in, if you get what im saying, just in general there is more oppurtunity



p.s. mikey the sunscreen issue probably hasnt been brought up because we havent had a blimmin summer lol

mikey72

mirrorimage0 wrote: »

p.s. mikey the sunscreen issue probably hasnt been brought up because we havent had a blimmin summer lol

It's been really sunny around here recently.
I suppose it could have been a picnic in the rain, but then even I'd be worried about kids stripping off if it wasn't too warm.

mildred1978

mirrorimage0 wrote: »

but i never said it was more dangerous or happening more for stranger abduction i just said in general it does happen more, even down to child pornoghraphy etc, people have more access and interact more with it, you here horror stories of it happening in nurseries etc yrs ago there wasnt any nowdays there thousands so the odd one it happens in, if you get what im saying, just in general there is more oppurtunity

Couldn't disagree more. No evidence to support it, for one. The fact you now hear about it ad nauseum (thanks to the wonders of 24/7 news) doesn't make it more prolific.

Years ago it happened, don't kid yourself it didn't, but people either weren't aware, didn't speak out or it got no further than the immediate family/church/children's home etc. Don't forget fewer children went to nursery 20 or 30 years ago because mum tended to stay at home with the children. Perhaps that's why those stories tend to stick in the mind.

Spendless

I don't understand why someone who knew the parents slightly wouldn't say 'hiya, and casually slip into conversation that the younger ones were undressed?' Presumably the parents didn't know if they couldn't see them, unless they had taken the highly unusual step of taking them to the park naked? In which case I would think it bizarre. I also think it unlikely that the parents would say you strip off to your birthday suit and go play on the slides now. I'd also think that if the adults were picnicking at some point the kids were in the same area too, so either they'd all been in the park together and then the adults said let's have our picnic down there, or they'd picnicds first and then the collective kids said can we go to the play area now and were told 'yes as long as you stop together'. And then the younger kids undressed and the older kids thought nothing of it cos they don't look at it from an adult's perspective, which is why none of them said anything.

mikey72

mildred1978 wrote: »

Couldn't disagree more. No evidence to support it, for one. The fact you now hear about it ad nauseum (thanks to the wonders of 24/7 news) doesn't make it more prolific.

Years ago it happened, don't kid yourself it didn't, but people either weren't aware, didn't speak out or it got no further than the immediate family/church/children's home etc. Don't forget fewer children went to nursery 20 or 30 years ago because mum tended to stay at home with the children. Perhaps that's why those stories tend to stick in the mind.

Living in the Ian Brady/Mora Hindley part of the world, and remembering the Who's "Uncle Ernie" from Tommy in the sixties, I think it happened about as much.

mirrorimage0

i dont kid myself it didnt happen, i know it did, i just think its more easily accesable nowdays in different situations, but like ive said all along that is just my opinion, you will never get hard facts, as the statistics will show it has gone up more these days, than say a hundred yrs ago, but is that just because it is reported more or because there is more oppurtunity, you wont get a defeniate answer on that because you cant prove or disprove it. its an opinion. x

similar thing for instance with drugs, you get more junkies these days because it is more available and can be gotten hold of easier

im not saying anyone is wrong or right just expressing what i feel. x

mikey72

mirrorimage0 wrote: »

....similar thing for instance with drugs, you get more junkies these days because it is more available and can be gotten hold of easier

Everything is relative, opium wasn't restricted until around 1900.

As for the sixties, I think drugs were quite readily available then as well.

Looking at it, it seems society gets more order with each generation, not less.

peachyprice

mirrorimage0 wrote: »

i dont kid myself it didnt happen, i know it did, i just think its more easily accesable nowdays in different situations, x

What is 'more accessible' though. There's a clear difference between pornography and abduction, nobody could deny that there is far more pornography accessible, but that does not lead to more child abduction.

Fact is, there is no more abduction or abuse, it was just swept under the carpet years ago.

mirrorimage0

but thats the point i wasnt just talking about abduction, i was just saying i dont agree with children being naked in public as there are bad men and women out there . and anything can happen, and i believe there is more abuse nowdays. its ok to have different opinions though :-)