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Is there Tax payable when 'subletting'

Hope this is the right place for this question...

I currently rent privately through a family friend.
Works well, as we're pretty free to live in it how we like, decorating etc - his only real concern is getting paid. (Thus there is no written contract, deposit etc)

I've been offered an overseas role on a fixed 12-18 month contract (to be decided) with my existing employer. I'm keen to continue renting the property so as we have somewhere to keep what property we don't want to take, and have a home to come back to at the end - and indeed somewhere to come back to as & when we come for a visit etc.

My plan is for someone - my brother I think - to basically house sit - but pay to do so. The landlord has indicated he is happy in principle with the idea as long as it's still me paying the rent. My intention is to charge much less than what I'm paying in rent - and that will also include all utilities, as I will continue to pay these too. So overall, I'm only getting back around 50% of what it costs me.

Now, I don't think I would have to pay any tax on that income, but wanted to check. Direct.gov says that you have to pay on any income less allowable expenses. Whilst the allowable expenses are stated as being council tax, utilities etc - it only mentions 'interest on loan payments' as another - it doesn't specifically allow for existing rental costs.

Does anyone know what the situation would be here?

Thanks for your help
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  • Alter_ego
    Alter_ego Posts: 3,842 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I think you will find it is taxable, but only HMRC know for sure.
    I am not a cat (But my friend is)
  • Werdnal
    Werdnal Posts: 3,780 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Any income needs to be declared, regardless of where it comes from. You complete a tax return, and some of the costs you mentioned are allowable against the income. HMRC will decide what, if anything, you need to pay them.
  • aldredd
    aldredd Posts: 925 Forumite
    Thanks Werdnal - I just wonder if 'Rental Paid' would be deemed an allowable expense.

    About 50% of it would be on utilities & council tax anyway (which I think are allowable), so it would only be the final 50% which I'm potentially exposed to, right?
  • Errata
    Errata Posts: 38,230 Forumite
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    The money you receive from the sub-tenant will be classed as income and taxed accordingly. There are no allowable expenses to offset as you won't be a landlord nor a business.
    .................:)....I'm smiling because I have no idea what's going on ...:)
  • Werdnal
    Werdnal Posts: 3,780 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    edited 1 September 2011 at 9:06AM
    Errata wrote: »
    The money you receive from the sub-tenant will be classed as income and taxed accordingly. There are no allowable expenses to offset as you won't be a landlord nor a business.

    Of course, you are correct - utilities, council tax etc, are the responsibility of the tenant, so if the tenant decides not make the subtenant pay them, they are not deductable. I was in LL mode when I replied!

    The costs you are be able to deduct would be repairs, mortgage interest, running costs (ie agents fees etc), and other things incurred by a LL, not the things OP would normally pay if they were living there!

    Thanks for the correction and apologies for confusion!
  • aldredd
    aldredd Posts: 925 Forumite
    ooo - just found THIS which would suggest I can take into account rent.
    Allowable expenses
    The most common types of expenses you can deduct are:

    water rates, council tax, gas and electricity
    maintenance and repairs to the property (but not improvements)
    and contents insurance
    interest on a mortgage to buy the property
    costs of services, including the wages of gardeners and cleaners
    letting agents fees
    legal fees for lets of a year or less, or for renewing a lease of less than 50 years
    accountant’s fees
    rents, ground rents and service charges
  • aldredd
    aldredd Posts: 925 Forumite
    edited 1 September 2011 at 9:04AM
    Errata wrote: »
    The money you receive from the sub-tenant will be classed as income and taxed accordingly. There are no allowable expenses to offset as you won't be a landlord nor a business.

    oh, that's not good :(

    But surely, if you're taxed on your 'net profit', I'm not actually making any profit to be taxed on?

    hmm, not liking this. Presumably, if we changed it so that my brother pays his share directly, and I pay the rest - there would be no such issue?
    Maybe I'll press for that then :D
  • Werdnal wrote: »
    Any income needs to be declared, regardless of where it comes from. You complete a tax return, and some of the costs you mentioned are allowable against the income. HMRC will decide what, if anything, you need to pay them.
    yes, i agree:money:
  • Errata
    Errata Posts: 38,230 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    But surely, if you're taxed on your 'net profit', I'm not actually making any profit to be taxed on?

    But you're not a landlord or a business, so can't make a profit on what you're 'selling'. Or a loss.
    .................:)....I'm smiling because I have no idea what's going on ...:)
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Surely by sub letting and charging rent, one would automatically become a landlord.
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