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Employer changing conditions without consultation....

Can an employer cut working hours or downgrade a person without any consultation? The company does not need to cut overall hours but has allocated some of person A's hours to person B. There is no disciplinary involved. I have been told the grievance procedure is the route to take. What does this involve?
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  • Emmzi
    Emmzi Posts: 8,658 Forumite
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    depends. what is in person A's contract? are we talking overtime or what?
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  • SarEl
    SarEl Posts: 5,683 Forumite
    Emmzi wrote: »
    depends. what is in person A's contract? are we talking overtime or what?

    Agreed - not enough details of anything here.
  • Hoof_Hearted
    Hoof_Hearted Posts: 2,362 Forumite
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    No, not overtime. The person works in a school. Apologies for the lack of info.
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  • Emmzi
    Emmzi Posts: 8,658 Forumite
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    the person works in a school

    Is not on a casual contract?
    Has worked there for more than a year?
    Is not subject to any disciplinary procedures?
    Is qualified to teach the subjects they were teaching?
    Debt free 4th April 2007.
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  • SarEl
    SarEl Posts: 5,683 Forumite
    Emmzi wrote: »
    the person works in a school

    Is not on a casual contract?
    Has worked there for more than a year?
    Is not subject to any disciplinary procedures?
    Is qualified to teach the subjects they were teaching?

    And then some....

    It is much easier to answer the question if you just spit it out and say what has happened.
  • Hoof_Hearted
    Hoof_Hearted Posts: 2,362 Forumite
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    Emmzi wrote: »
    the person works in a school

    Is not on a casual contract? Correct
    Has worked there for more than a year? Correct
    Is not subject to any disciplinary procedures? Correct
    Is qualified to teach the subjects they were teaching? Correct

    There is nothing untoward, just the Head has changed the grade and contract. The employee was just told you are now on mainscale and your hours are halved from September. I want to be a bit vague for obvious reasons.
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  • Hoof_Hearted
    Hoof_Hearted Posts: 2,362 Forumite
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    What other information would be needed to advise?
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  • Emmzi
    Emmzi Posts: 8,658 Forumite
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    I don't know what mainscale is myself, and without an idea of what not mainscale was....

    A non fixed term, full time, permanent contract of more than a year really can't be changed in the short term without agreement. Turning up to work however implies an acceptance of the terms.

    You speak of "the employee" as if it is not you. Can you direct the actual employee to this board and then they can decide what they want to disclose?

    Unless you can tell the proper story it is going to be very frustrating for everyone I am afraid. Andm, you did not actually answer my questions. Once last go then I am calling it a day :-)
    Debt free 4th April 2007.
    New house. Bigger mortgage. MFWB after I have my buffer cash in place.
  • Hoof_Hearted
    Hoof_Hearted Posts: 2,362 Forumite
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    Emmzi wrote: »

    A non fixed term, full time, permanent contract of more than a year really can't be changed in the short term without agreement. Turning up to work however implies an acceptance of the terms.

    I think you have answered my question. Your second sentence is interesting. If the grievance procedure is invoked first, then turning up in September could not be construed as acceptance. Yes?
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  • Emmzi
    Emmzi Posts: 8,658 Forumite
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    It's not a grievance though. It's a letter saying "I do not accept the proposed change in my contract." And then take it from there.
    Debt free 4th April 2007.
    New house. Bigger mortgage. MFWB after I have my buffer cash in place.
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