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TUPE & Discretionary benefits
InsideInsurance
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Its water under the bridge and I personally wasn't impacted by it but am slightly curious of what the legalities were....
Company A Plc owns 100% of Company B Ltd. Staff working for Company B have contracts in the name of Company B Ltd
Company B Ltd decides to buy out Company Z Ltd as a going concern and therefore TUPE applies.
It is then decided to offer all staff formerly of Company B Ltd and Company Z Ltd new contracts in the name of Company A Plc.
For employees formerly of Company B Ltd the changes are minimal and for most probably beneficial.
For employees formerly of Company Z Ltd the changes are very significant and for some beneficial for other negative.
Company Z's employee contracts however had a significant amount of benefits/ bonuses as discretionary rather than mandated. During the consultation process of switching contracts it is hinted at, but not stated or written anywhere, that all discretionary benefits/ bonuses would be decided to not be awarded.
So as an example a former employee of Z would sacrifice a discretionary bonus of up to 20% for a non-discretionary bonus of 10% if they switched contracts or basically get no bonus if they stayed on their old contract.
Would this sort of activity be considered legal?
I personally wasn't impacted as I worked for B prior to the acquisition and benefited from the switch to the new contract wordings.
Company A Plc owns 100% of Company B Ltd. Staff working for Company B have contracts in the name of Company B Ltd
Company B Ltd decides to buy out Company Z Ltd as a going concern and therefore TUPE applies.
It is then decided to offer all staff formerly of Company B Ltd and Company Z Ltd new contracts in the name of Company A Plc.
For employees formerly of Company B Ltd the changes are minimal and for most probably beneficial.
For employees formerly of Company Z Ltd the changes are very significant and for some beneficial for other negative.
Company Z's employee contracts however had a significant amount of benefits/ bonuses as discretionary rather than mandated. During the consultation process of switching contracts it is hinted at, but not stated or written anywhere, that all discretionary benefits/ bonuses would be decided to not be awarded.
So as an example a former employee of Z would sacrifice a discretionary bonus of up to 20% for a non-discretionary bonus of 10% if they switched contracts or basically get no bonus if they stayed on their old contract.
Would this sort of activity be considered legal?
I personally wasn't impacted as I worked for B prior to the acquisition and benefited from the switch to the new contract wordings.
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Yes - the exercise of discretion is discretionary! If there is no entitlement then management - whoever management are - can simply decide not to pay a discretionary bonus.0
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InsideInsurance wrote: »...
So as an example a former employee of Z would sacrifice a discretionary bonus of up to 20% for a non-discretionary bonus of 10% if they switched contracts or basically get no bonus if they stayed on their old contract.
As it is company A which will now set the discretionary bonus, you have to think of the possibility of a discretionary bonus of 0%.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
Isn't there a a claim under "custom and practice" here, if a bonus has been paid out for the last few years should it not be paid again for company Z employees?The World come on.....0
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Absolutely. However, custom and practice determines that a discretionary bonus be paid. This is where the problem arises. Custom and practice will not extend to setting the level of a discretionary bonus.Mr_Falling_Star wrote: »Isn't there a a claim under "custom and practice" here, if a bonus has been paid out for the last few years should it not be paid again for company Z employees?
Taking it on its own, 10% fixed looks like a good offer to buy out the bonus.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0
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