Laws surrounding Witnessing your float/till being cashed up

bluenoseam

Sounds dodgy as hell to me, but i know not every company is as stringent as where i last worked where the Cash Office was camera covered and the cash was counted & checked independantly, if someone's deducting my wages for my till being short i want to know if there was an investigation into it if it's anything over £1, if it's £10 then i'm expecting proof, tangible proof.

I would also be questioning the float to start with myself if it's regular, while i agree that mistakes happen, if things aren't right at source then it needs to be fixed.

vax2002

Head office and report the theft.

dark_lady

Hammyman wrote: »

I'm sorry but if I had someone doing something that directly results in money being taken out of my wages because of their incompetency, I am damned sure I'd want to watch them do it.

I actually agree with you Hammyman but i have worked in retail including over the Christmas period so Jarndyce saying i have no idea when Jarndyce themself has no idea what employment that i have experience of,astounds me to be honest. Trouble is when you work in retail there isnt even time to blow your own nose at times let alone LEAVE THE SHOP FLOOR during busy periods to watch someone else cash up. Couple that with the fact that a lot of places are short staffed at the mo due to cutbacks and saving on wages means it is less likely that they can spare someone off the shop floor. Really they need to have a staff meeting so that it can be discussed properly.And it probably will have to be after closing but its better to do that (even if unpaid) than to have wages docked on one person"s say so.

getmore4less

I would check the company cashing up procedures.

It is in everyones interest to have checks with cash to avoid the needs for investigations and the temptations.


If it happening regularly does the same problem happen when the normal person doing the cashing up is on holiday?

DCFC79

Does your employer have a confidential phone number where you can report stuff so things like theft etc but dont want to give your name. Or maybe call area manager/head office and tell them whats gone on but dont leave your name in case it comes back on you.

kingfisherblue

Another thing to consider about deductions - I think the company can only make the deductions if it dsoes not take the employee below minimum wage. If I'm wrong, maybe another poster can correct me.

Jarndyce

dark_lady wrote: »

I actually agree with you Hammyman but i have worked in retail including over the Christmas period so Jarndyce saying i have no idea when Jarndyce themself has no idea what employment that i have experience of,astounds me to be honest. Trouble is when you work in retail there isnt even time to blow your own nose at times let alone LEAVE THE SHOP FLOOR during busy periods to watch someone else cash up. Couple that with the fact that a lot of places are short staffed at the mo due to cutbacks and saving on wages means it is less likely that they can spare someone off the shop floor. Really they need to have a staff meeting so that it can be discussed properly.And it probably will have to be after closing but its better to do that (even if unpaid) than to have wages docked on one person"s say so.

I said you have no idea what the arrangements are in the OP's workplace, that is all. Read the thread properly before slagging me off for something I have not said. I don't care what experience you have, it is not relevenat to your knowledge of the OP's work environment. We don't know if she is in a fast moving store or a bespoke boutique selling five items a day.

The trouble is that you and others on this thread is, as usual, are saying what has happened in your experience and asserting that as what should happen here, when the fact is that the OP has no legal right to witness the cashing up, and that is the answer to the question she asked.

Telling her that what should happen is whatever happened in your workplace five years ago is hardly relevant is it? Because she is not in control of what happens in hers.

The only helpful advice she can be given is either to gather evidence (and be absolutely bloody watertight) that her till is not short before it is cashed up oir, if that is not practical, raise her concerns with a higher authority but again, be sure she has solid grounds for doing so otherwise expect the management ranks to close against her.

Oh, and if she hasn't been there 12 months, not to do anything at all until she has.

SarEl

I am afraid I have to agree with Jarndyce. Bottom line - no right to a witness to cash up. So where do you go from there? Absolute certainty is the only place - you do not accuse managers of stealing unless you can prove it. Which means careful escalation to more senior managers

katie89

I used to work in a cinema, and we were made to stay to witness our tills be cashed up, even if it over-ran our shifts. Anytime anyone else opened my till, I had to be there to witness it. I think this was a company policy, however, rather than legal right. However, if there were ever errors on a till, an employee was never made to pay it back, but could face disciplinary action if it happen 3 or more times, or was above a certain amount.

Sharon87

katie89 wrote: »

I used to work in a cinema, and we were made to stay to witness our tills be cashed up, even if it over-ran our shifts. Anytime anyone else opened my till, I had to be there to witness it. I think this was a company policy, however, rather than legal right. However, if there were ever errors on a till, an employee was never made to pay it back, but could face disciplinary action if it happen 3 or more times, or was above a certain amount.

Was that Vue? Cause I worked there and had the same procedures. We had to check it at beginning of the day, watch it being counted at end of day. And sometimes it got checked during the day - usually quiet periods or when someone says they didn't receive enough change!

I think if no one else witnessed the cash up the manager can't take any disciplinary measures for any short falls, as they themselves may have miscounted. If an employee were to challenge shortfalls the company wouldn't have a legal leg to stand on really, just the managers word. Whereas if 2 managers, or 1 manager and the cashier were cashing up the till, it's there clear.