Lost expense receipt what can I do?

Sambucus_Nigra

gordikin wrote: »

So Post #13 is okay in style and is in an appropriate way?

Evidently it's the way MSE is going...

Procrastinator333

gordikin wrote: »

No, there is clearly a difference in applying common sense and lying. Why the Muppet comment?...do you have 'issues' you want to share?

You should be directing any frustration with the policy towards those that set the policy. If they wanted to allow for the occasional item it would be easy to state receipts on all occasions apart from exceptional circumstances. But they often don't.

In the vast majority of businesses finance is the most heavily controlled and heavily audited department by a mile. Making payments outside of the policy would quickly be discovered and failure to comply with rules would almost certainly lead to formal action and in the end dismissal.

And my issue is people like you who have a pop at AP staff for things which are clearly not their fault. If you are unhappy with the policy discuss it with a director and get it changed. If you want to work round it just add a few more miles on to another claim. But no, most people with these sort of gripes are too gutless for that and just have a go at someone trying to do their job.

Sambucus_Nigra

Procrastinator333 wrote: »

You should be directing any frustration with the policy towards those that set the policy. If they wanted to allow for the occasional item it would be easy to state receipts on all occasions apart from exceptional circumstances. But they often don't.

In the vast majority of businesses finance is the most heavily controlled and heavily audited department by a mile. Making payments outside of the policy would quickly be discovered and failure to comply with rules would almost certainly lead to formal action and in the end dismissal.

And my issue is people like you who have a pop at AP staff for things which are clearly not their fault. If you are unhappy with the policy discuss it with a director and get it changed. If you want to work round it just add a few more miles on to another claim. But no, most people with these sort of gripes are too gutless for that and just have a go at someone trying to do their job.

But surely fraud isn't the answer? If a receipt has to be kept then why is it everyone else's fault when the OP loses theirs? It's not hard...take receipt, put it in your wallet or purse, get it out when you fill your expense form in, staple them together....take a photo on your camera phone if you can't trust yourself to hold onto it for a few days.

People have been sacked for falsifying expenses even with their manager's approval. Just don't do it.

Procrastinator333

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

But surely fraud isn't the answer? If a receipt has to be kept then why is it everyone else's fault when the OP loses theirs? It's not hard...take receipt, put it in your wallet or purse, get it out when you fill your expense form in, staple them together....take a photo on your camera phone if you can't trust yourself to hold onto it for a few days.

People have been sacked for falsifying expenses even with their manager's approval. Just don't do it.

Couldn't agree more. But some take out their stupidity on the AP clark doing their job. AP clarks have been fired for not adhering to the rules of processing payments. Yet people expect them to apply "common sense" and call them a jobsworth when they don't. And these are often the same people who are too scared to either discuss it with a Director or break the rules themself. Hypocrites.

Personally, I would keep the receipts, and if stupid enough to lose them, just take it on the chin. But if people can't accept that, they should either take the risk themselves and agree with their manager to claim a little extra for something else, or complain to a director about the policy itself. Moaning at the AP clark is not the answer.

Pee

I see what you mean about HMRC needing the receipts, but my firm does not ask for receipts. I keep them so that I could produce them if asked, but have never been asked.)

Evilm

Since recieving the email have you spoken to your manager about what to do? This can't be the first time that this has happened and lots of managers will sign off expense forms without checking every receipt so Accounts will still check and query such things.

I expect your manager will be able to say something like "forward the email to me, I'll sort it" and be able to authorize Accounts to pay it.

Jarndyce

MSE_Andrea wrote: »

Hi everyone

We've removed some replies and not others.

If the people who've had posts removed could have a look at the style of the posts we've left, which in some cases said the same as you but in an appropriate way, then that should help you understand the kind of posts we're happy to leave.

Thanks

My original post (now deleted) said something like:

"It never ceases to amaze me how people who hold apparently responsible jobs are unable to resolve simple problems like this for themselves.
Surely in the time it took to write the OP, you could have had a grown up conversation internally and resolved this problem".

Please could you explain to me and the several others who either agreed and/or thanked me for that post, exactly why it was so offensive or inappropriate that it waranted being deleted, and exactly what was wrong with its 'style'?

Thank you.

As for deleting the posts complaining about deleting the posts, well that's just control freakery.

Sambucus_Nigra

Jarndyce wrote: »

My original post (now deleted) said something like:

"It never ceases to amaze me how people who hold apparently responsible jobs are unable to resolve simple problems like this for themselves.
Surely in the time it took to write the OP, you could have had a grown up conversation internally and resolved this problem".

Please could you explain to me and the several others who either agreed and/or thanked me for that post, exactly why it was so offensive or inappropriate that it waranted being deleted, and exactly what was wrong with its 'style'?

Thank you.

As for deleting the posts complaining about deleting the posts, well that's just control freakery.

You are banging your head against a brick wall.

Remember these are the same people that moved a Rape thread from the relationships board to Discussion time.....hmm yes - lets all discuss your rape together.

prowla

The HR people should really think about what their purpose in life is.
This is a genuine mistake, and it is acceptable to put forward unreceipted expenses on an occasional basis.

Procrastinator333

prowla wrote: »

The HR people should really think about what their purpose in life is.
This is a genuine mistake, and it is acceptable to put forward unreceipted expenses on an occasional basis.

It isn't HR, it is finance that process expense claims. If the company policy is all receipts required, the accounts payable clark risks being formally reprimanded and even fired if they deliberately breach the policy by processing non receipted expenses.

So basically you are saying saying AP staff should put their job at risk because you or some other idiot lost their receipt? If you don't like the policy, complain to those that make the policy. Or take the risk yourself and fiddle your own expenses. Why expect someone else to take the risk for your idiocy.